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SunnyJim
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Post by SunnyJim »

Bloody dreamers eh?
Jim

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Post by Vortex »

Comment posted.

PO people seem to rule the roost over there at the moment!
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Post by eatyourveg »

Vortex wrote:Comment posted.

PO people seem to rule the roost over there at the moment!
Yes, but wait till it heats up a bit. It's a car crash (fatal, Tarantino style) in slow motion.
Aurora

Post by Aurora »

The prize for the biggest rsehole on the site has to go to Boo To Peak Oil.

He really doesn't get it does he? :lol:
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Post by Totally_Baffled »

Serious question.
Ok 60%-70% tax on fuel is unfair.
So if fuel is made tax free prices go back to the circa 50p mark.
The price of fuel (well diesel anyway) has risen (not due to tax) by 30p in 6 months.
At this rate we will be back to todays prices in a year.
OK , lets be optimistic and say back up to todays levels in 3 years.
THEN WHAT??????
Just posted this.

I wonder what the response will be?

I expect it will not be nice! :)
TB

Peak oil? ahhh smeg..... :(
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Post by Greenbeast »

thats exactly the argument i keep spouting on one of my other forums when they talk of cutting tax/duty

They don't think any further than 5 minutes into the future
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Post by eatyourveg »

Totally_Baffled wrote:
Serious question.
Ok 60%-70% tax on fuel is unfair.
So if fuel is made tax free prices go back to the circa 50p mark.
The price of fuel (well diesel anyway) has risen (not due to tax) by 30p in 6 months.
At this rate we will be back to todays prices in a year.
OK , lets be optimistic and say back up to todays levels in 3 years.
THEN WHAT??????
Just posted this.

I wonder what the response will be?

I expect it will not be nice! :)
Just had a look and I don't think you got a response full stop. You are talking above their heads!
Interesting today, the hysterics are out in full force, but PO is making a comeback.
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Post by emordnilap »

Taken from one of jo's TEQ threads I quote a classic, clueless MP, meaningless line:
Labour MP Lindsay Hoyle said the chancellor, Alistair Darling, should scrap plans to raise fuel duty.

"People have to be able to afford to use the car.
Well, yes, this is true. You can't run a car unless you can afford it.

and
You can see people's faces looking at the clock as it's ticking away merrily and it's the sheer expense now of taking your car out and of road transport.
If only these people did see the clock ticking...
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Post by eatyourveg »

Totally_Baffled wrote:
Serious question.
Ok 60%-70% tax on fuel is unfair.
So if fuel is made tax free prices go back to the circa 50p mark.
The price of fuel (well diesel anyway) has risen (not due to tax) by 30p in 6 months.
At this rate we will be back to todays prices in a year.
OK , lets be optimistic and say back up to todays levels in 3 years.
THEN WHAT??????
Just posted this.

I wonder what the response will be?

I expect it will not be nice! :)
OOO look, you got a reply!


"Ow sorry guys, I must have missed post 79.

Let me answer this with a little story. (Coming to a screen near you.)


Once upon a time Little Johnny could only afford a car that costs him ?500 to buy and could only do 20mpg at the best. As fuel prices rose his disposable income became less. Then after the great battle of Peak Oil when Boo To Peak Oil won, oil prices went down. Little Johnny was happy. He could finally afford to buy a more economical car and to save up for the times ahead. As the oil prices began to rise again Little Johnny was prepared as he had savings and an economical car.

The moral of the story is Boo To Peak Oil rocks. Ok just joking.

When prices are lower, the cost of living goes down. People will be able to afford to prepare for higher fuel prices. And should they become unbearable the great battle of Peak Oil and Boo To Peak Oil will return. People will be able to afford higher prices at a lower rising rate."


Posted by Boo To Peak Oil, 23rd May 2008 3:04pm

There you have it. The moron speaks.
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Post by kenneal - lagger »

Its all india and chinas fault until they started buying cars petrol was cheep so if we nuke them they cant buy any moor oil so our petrol will be cheep again.

Just kidding!
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Post by Totally_Baffled »

Peak oil and clones, can you just go away and let us have a debate please.

We know what you're talking about, so you don't have to repeat yourselves over and over and over and over and over again as if you are the only people on the planet who read the papers.

Realise that it's people like you who are holding up the whole going forward process to some kind of realistic future with your abuse of the peak oil principle as scare mongering.

So, we have to change, yes, are changing? no, why, because people don't know what to do and you're not helping, because at this time, your advice simply does not work. If I don't drive to keep my job, someone else drives to take my job the only difference is that I'm unemployed.

If I save a gallon of fuel, then someone else uses that gallon of fuel, the only difference is that it's not me using that fuel.

Get it straight, we're all phuqed, all of us, yes you too and all you do is try to stop people doing anything.

Get over yourselves with your holier than thou preaching, you don't have a solution so shut the hell up.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyone understand this guys argument?

Sounds a bit like , "I know PO is real, and we are all screwed, but as long as fuel duty is reduced by a bit Im happy?"

Strange position!
TB

Peak oil? ahhh smeg..... :(
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Post by jcw »

greg wrote:
Totally_Baffled wrote: Posted by Boo To Peak Oil, 23rd May 2008 3:04pm

There you have it. The moron speaks.
Something like that happened in late '06 to '07. I hope Little Johnny has already got his more economical car and has done a lot of saving up.

He's going to be screwed in the long run anyway.
Aurora

Post by Aurora »

Quote from Greg on petrolpricemorons.com:
Even Gordon Brown is coming round to realising it, in todays Guardian (one of the papers without tits in it) he described our problems as Peak Oil
:lol: :lol: :lol: Not while I'm eating please Greg. The dog's covered in food now. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by eatyourveg »

This is just so thrilling, a new blog has just popped up at petrolmorons:

http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/govern ... g-100.html
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