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Just posted this.Serious question.
Ok 60%-70% tax on fuel is unfair.
So if fuel is made tax free prices go back to the circa 50p mark.
The price of fuel (well diesel anyway) has risen (not due to tax) by 30p in 6 months.
At this rate we will be back to todays prices in a year.
OK , lets be optimistic and say back up to todays levels in 3 years.
THEN WHAT??????
I wonder what the response will be?
I expect it will not be nice!
TB
Peak oil? ahhh smeg.....
Peak oil? ahhh smeg.....
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Just had a look and I don't think you got a response full stop. You are talking above their heads!Totally_Baffled wrote:Just posted this.Serious question.
Ok 60%-70% tax on fuel is unfair.
So if fuel is made tax free prices go back to the circa 50p mark.
The price of fuel (well diesel anyway) has risen (not due to tax) by 30p in 6 months.
At this rate we will be back to todays prices in a year.
OK , lets be optimistic and say back up to todays levels in 3 years.
THEN WHAT??????
I wonder what the response will be?
I expect it will not be nice!
Interesting today, the hysterics are out in full force, but PO is making a comeback.
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Taken from one of jo's TEQ threads I quote a classic, clueless MP, meaningless line:
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Well, yes, this is true. You can't run a car unless you can afford it.Labour MP Lindsay Hoyle said the chancellor, Alistair Darling, should scrap plans to raise fuel duty.
"People have to be able to afford to use the car.
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If only these people did see the clock ticking...You can see people's faces looking at the clock as it's ticking away merrily and it's the sheer expense now of taking your car out and of road transport.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
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OOO look, you got a reply!Totally_Baffled wrote:Just posted this.Serious question.
Ok 60%-70% tax on fuel is unfair.
So if fuel is made tax free prices go back to the circa 50p mark.
The price of fuel (well diesel anyway) has risen (not due to tax) by 30p in 6 months.
At this rate we will be back to todays prices in a year.
OK , lets be optimistic and say back up to todays levels in 3 years.
THEN WHAT??????
I wonder what the response will be?
I expect it will not be nice!
"Ow sorry guys, I must have missed post 79.
Let me answer this with a little story. (Coming to a screen near you.)
Once upon a time Little Johnny could only afford a car that costs him ?500 to buy and could only do 20mpg at the best. As fuel prices rose his disposable income became less. Then after the great battle of Peak Oil when Boo To Peak Oil won, oil prices went down. Little Johnny was happy. He could finally afford to buy a more economical car and to save up for the times ahead. As the oil prices began to rise again Little Johnny was prepared as he had savings and an economical car.
The moral of the story is Boo To Peak Oil rocks. Ok just joking.
When prices are lower, the cost of living goes down. People will be able to afford to prepare for higher fuel prices. And should they become unbearable the great battle of Peak Oil and Boo To Peak Oil will return. People will be able to afford higher prices at a lower rising rate."
Posted by Boo To Peak Oil, 23rd May 2008 3:04pm
There you have it. The moron speaks.
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Peak oil and clones, can you just go away and let us have a debate please.
We know what you're talking about, so you don't have to repeat yourselves over and over and over and over and over again as if you are the only people on the planet who read the papers.
Realise that it's people like you who are holding up the whole going forward process to some kind of realistic future with your abuse of the peak oil principle as scare mongering.
So, we have to change, yes, are changing? no, why, because people don't know what to do and you're not helping, because at this time, your advice simply does not work. If I don't drive to keep my job, someone else drives to take my job the only difference is that I'm unemployed.
If I save a gallon of fuel, then someone else uses that gallon of fuel, the only difference is that it's not me using that fuel.
Get it straight, we're all phuqed, all of us, yes you too and all you do is try to stop people doing anything.
Get over yourselves with your holier than thou preaching, you don't have a solution so shut the hell up.
Anyone understand this guys argument?
Sounds a bit like , "I know PO is real, and we are all screwed, but as long as fuel duty is reduced by a bit Im happy?"
Strange position!
TB
Peak oil? ahhh smeg.....
Peak oil? ahhh smeg.....
greg wrote:Something like that happened in late '06 to '07. I hope Little Johnny has already got his more economical car and has done a lot of saving up.Totally_Baffled wrote: Posted by Boo To Peak Oil, 23rd May 2008 3:04pm
There you have it. The moron speaks.
He's going to be screwed in the long run anyway.
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This is just so thrilling, a new blog has just popped up at petrolmorons:
http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/govern ... g-100.html
http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/govern ... g-100.html