New coronavirus in/from China

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Feb 2020, 09:26

Brighton: 7 schools, 3 GP surgeries, 2 hospitals, a community centre and a pub have announced links to the coronavirus and are "self isolating".

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1822895 ... isolating/

Also a suspected case at Sussex University, and rumours of a case in Eastbourne.

Post by **mikepepler** » 12 Feb 2020, 10:11

A British prisoner suspected to have contracted coronavirus after being extradited from a Thai jail is an alleged drug dealer, it has emerged.

Mark Rumble, 31, reportedly flew back to the UK on 27 January to face charges of conspiracy to supply class A drugs after his arrest by Thai police last year.

The prisoner is understood to have collapsed in his cell at HMP Bullingdon, a category B prison in Oxfordshire, and rushed to hospital. At least two prisoners at the jail, which is on lockdown, have been tested for the disease.

From https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... pdate-news

If they test positive, that implies problems in a jail in Thailand, and for people who came with him on the flight, and in the jail in the UK. Another possible cluster of cases... Of course, he could just have been trying it on to get some time out of his cell.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 12 Feb 2020, 10:57

Little John wrote:
Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:
adam2 wrote: Manage the news, restrict bad news.
Prohibit talking to the press, AKA "spreading rumours"
In which case, the rest of us should assume the worst and act accordingly where possible. Assume HM Govt stats are no better than China's - especially if there are asymptomatic cases which are undetectable anyway.

Can't remember if I posted this earlier. Apologies if I did.

GP surgeries and dentists make everyone use touch screens on arrival!! With a 50/50 chance of contamination straight off, with the Male / Female question, followed by reducing odds when keying in month and day of birth. I'm going to use small strips of bin bag covering my fingertip. To then place in an (unused) dog poop bag as if it were even more hazardous than dog poop. Which it may be. Using my own pen and clipboard to sign for prescriptions. And definitely no reading of magazines in the waiting room. Where I'd probably stand.

And what's more, I've changed my mind about the risks of contactless payment. And if over the amount, the credit card PIN keypad will also get the plastic strip fingertip procedure. Not that I'm planning any shopping after this week.
if you use plastic over your fingers, the touchscreen wont work as it uses the electrical conductivity of your skin to work

Certainly not true for all touch screens. My phone has a touch screen as does my iPad, both work fine when I use protective disposable gloves, of any type Iâ€™ve tried so far. Finger recognition is a bit stuffed though.

Post by **adam2** » 12 Feb 2020, 11:04

There are at least two different technologies used in touch screens.
One type uses beams of infrared light very close to the screen, the interruption of these beams operates the screen. This style works fine with a gloved hand.

Another type relies the electrical conductivity of human skin and wont work with plastic or rubber gloves as these are electrically insulating. This type MIGHT work with leather gloves or slightly damp cotton gloves as such materials are slightly conductive.

Post by **mikepepler** » 12 Feb 2020, 11:09

adam2 wrote:Another type relies the electrical conductivity of human skin and wont work with plastic or rubber gloves as these are electrically insulating. This type MIGHT work with leather gloves or slightly damp cotton gloves as such materials are slightly conductive.

My cycling gloves have a patch on each index finger that works on touch screens.

Post by **mikepepler** » 12 Feb 2020, 11:14

A Russian woman has escaped coronavirus quarantine by short-circuiting the magnetic lock in a hospital in St Petersburg, writes our Moscow correspondent Nataliya Vasilyeva .

Alla Ilyina told the Fontanka.ru website on Tuesday that she went to see a doctor with a sore throat several days after she returned from a popular holiday destination in China.

She said that she was misinformed about the length of the quarantine and was told on several occasions that she was healthy.

Ms Ilyina, dubbed Sarah Connor after the hard-nut character from the Terminator films, told Fontanka that she put her university education to good use while plotting the escape. â€œI did physics at university after all,â€� she said.

Irina Ckhindzheria, St Petersburgâ€™s chief epidemiologist, condemned the escape as â€œan utterly irresponsible stepâ€�.

From https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... ll-latest/

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Feb 2020, 11:21

This is escalating fast.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-brighton

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 12 Feb 2020, 15:09

Here's a little brain teaser for you.

An outbreak occurs on even numbered, well separated houses on a suburban street. None on the odd numbered other side of the road. Starting at number 16 (who do like to go on their hols.) The folks next door really can't stand them - they never talk, yet they still got it. The shambolic alcoholic at number 20 didn't catch it, but all the other houses to number 32 did.

What happened?

Answer later this evening.

Post by **mikepepler** » 12 Feb 2020, 18:53

Now it's in London... https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/12/coronavi ... -12229567/

Post by **mikepepler** » 12 Feb 2020, 19:26

A mental health centre in Hove is going through a deep clean after a patient with flu-like symptoms had to be treated.

Itâ€™s understood the female patient had recently returned from Hong Kong, which Public Health England say is on the coronavirus warning list. The woman was treated at the unit, the Haven Annexe at Mill View Hospital, and is believed to have since left the centre.

And where exactly is she now?!?!?

From https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... pdate-news

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 12 Feb 2020, 19:39

Son number two (the one stopping in Brighton) has been back in London for the last two days. He's heading back home here up in the North East tomorrow until the end of Feb.

Hopefully, he left before catching the bugger. But, time will tell over the next week or two.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 12 Feb 2020, 22:08

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:Here's a little brain teaser for you.

An outbreak occurs on even numbered, well separated houses on a suburban street. None on the odd numbered other side of the road. Starting at number 16 (who do like to go on their hols.) The folks next door really can't stand them - they never talk, yet they still got it. The shambolic alcoholic at number 20 didn't catch it, but all the other houses to number 32 did.

What happened?

Answer later this evening.

It was the bin man wot dun it. The bloke from Number 16, fresh from his travels, coughed into his hand. Then dragged his wheely bin out for collection. The bin man (with gloves on) then contaminated the later bin grab handles which he was unloading on his side of the street. Pulled back in by each of the householders. The alcoholic was too wasted to bother putting his bin out that time.

Plausible? If so, possibly, supermarket trolleys might be another cause for concern.

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 13 Feb 2020, 02:24

Crap

Los Alamos and DARPA now claim reproduction of 4.7 - 6.6 [ie unstoppable]

a bioweapon??

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20021154v1

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 13 Feb 2020, 02:37

A big jump of 14000 "confirmed" cases in China after it officially changed the definition of confirmed to include clinically suspected cases, but which have not had a dna based testing kit confirmation. This is a rare admission from China that
1 there is a shortage of testing kits and/or
2 the kits have a high false negative rate.

This is a pragmatic move, because thousands of infected people were being refused treatment and left on the streets to infect others.

Again, it is too little too late,. There is no way the already other whelmed hospitals can treat these patients, except in 'isolation centres' where they will be left locked up untreated to recover or die as the disease takes them.

The huge new 'hospitals' that were built in 2 weeks lie almost unused, because there is no hospital equipment to fit them out, and no spare medical staff to operate them. There are reports that hospital staff are being infected in large numbers due to inadequate protective equipment, but many are choosing to continue working through the infection to save the severely ill, at the risk of further spreading the disease.

Coming to a hospital near you in the next few months.

Many of the 14000 will have already recovered or died. The extra deaths will not be added to official figures, leading to an under reporting of the death rate. Victims are cremated with no tissue samples retained for later diagnosis or dna testing. Initially they were given a cause of death of 'viral pneumonia' but later doctors were banned from using this term.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 13 Feb 2020, 07:16

With the numbers of people infected with coronavirus increasing, Professor Neil Ferguson - director of the imperial college tells Radio 4 he feels weâ€™re in the â€œearly phases of a global pandemicâ€�

https://twitter.com/i/status/1227519551983771648