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kenneal - lagger wrote:
Supermarkets are only interested in their bottom line so they won't go overboard on labelling. so if you want to know where your food comes from only buy from a reputable small butcher or direct from a farm.
...which is why supermarkets will have to make a major effort on labeling. If supermarkets like Sainsburys and Tesco want to keep their market share, they'd better make damned sure people can see what kind of meat they are buying. The British public is already suspicious of this, after the BSE scandal and repeated cases of horsemeat being mislabelled as beef.
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Little John wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:Anything that can be made here should be bought from here. Anything that cannot be made here should be imported. Any trade policy should reflect those aims.
Can it be made in the UK in sufficient quantities to meet demand at reasonable prices?
Now I do not want to defend the American hot dog or sausage market or their practices but you are as free to not choose to buy those products as I am.
The British people can decide that
The question then is do the customers get to decide what to buy in the store or will some committee of politicians decide what the stores can and cannot offer.?
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vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: Can it be made in the UK in sufficient quantities to meet demand at reasonable prices?
Now I do not want to defend the American hot dog or sausage market or their practices but you are as free to not choose to buy those products as I am.
The British people can decide that
The question then is do the customers get to decide what to buy in the store or will some committee of politicians decide what the stores can and cannot offer.?
That can be decided with democratic elections/referenda and parties whose trade policies may vary.
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Little John wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:The British people can decide that
The question then is do the customers get to decide what to buy in the store or will some committee of politicians decide what the stores can and cannot offer.?
That can be decided with democratic elections/referenda and parties whose trade policies may vary.
It's going to be a long five years.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:The question then is do the customers get to decide what to buy in the store or will some committee of politicians decide what the stores can and cannot offer.?
That can be decided with democratic elections/referenda and parties whose trade policies may vary.
It's going to be a long five years.
yes indeed it is
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Do you really think the people who run the country give a stuff about the quality of our food ?

They just want to keep the shelves full of enough cheap, sugar laden food to pacify us. The people who matter to them can afford the good stuff.
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Catweazle wrote:Do you really think the people who run the country give a stuff about the quality of our food ?

They just want to keep the shelves full of enough cheap, sugar laden food to pacify us. The people who matter to them can afford the good stuff.
No, I don't think they give a single solitary f*ck about us. Which is why it is critically important that they are not able to hide behind democratically non-accountable supranational bodies like the EU.
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Catweazle wrote:Do you really think the people who run the country give a stuff about the quality of our food ?

They just want to keep the shelves full of enough cheap, sugar laden food to pacify us. The people who matter to them can afford the good stuff.
We have a smallish Coop supermarket in the local small town, it's open 8am - 10pm every day. It's a rural area, there are plenty of local producers offering non processed food. The Coop is around 30% booze, 60% highly processed sugar/salt crap, and 10% actual food. It's always busy. They know their audience alright.
The local producers have to work bloody hard to make a basic living.

It's not as if there is an excuse for buying shite, there is massive publicity every day in just about all means of information dissemination regarding what's optimal or sub optimal for your dietary requirements. I don't believe there is any particular 'plot' to keep people pacified, it's done voluntarily through laziness, stupidity or just don't care-ness.

Brexit/No Brexit will make sod all difference.
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That great Remainer newspaper, the Observer, is reporting today that the IMF has changed its mind over Brexit and is now predicting better growth in the UK than in Europe. It is also reporting that several indicators of good economic performance are good and getting better. So much for our Brexit woes!!
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That's probably so they stiff us with a bigger bill when the ECB needs bailing out.
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fuzzy wrote:That's probably so they stiff us with a bigger bill when the ECB needs bailing out.
The ECB is a central bank and will never need bailing out. It can print all the money it needs, or the the rest of the EU needs.

What will need bailing out in the near future according to many commentators are many of Europe's ordinary banks. As we are leaving the EU we shouldn't get any direct calls for bailing out European banks but many of our banks have quite heavy commitments in Europe so they could require bailing out when the EU gets into trouble shortly.

Perhaps we should let Nicola Sturgeon bale out RBS and the other Scottish one whose name escapes me at the moment.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:
fuzzy wrote:That's probably so they stiff us with a bigger bill when the ECB needs bailing out.
The ECB is a central bank and will never need bailing out. It can print all the money it needs, or the the rest of the EU needs.

What will need bailing out in the near future according to many commentators are many of Europe's ordinary banks. As we are leaving the EU we shouldn't get any direct calls for bailing out European banks but many of our banks have quite heavy commitments in Europe so they could require bailing out when the EU gets into trouble shortly.

Perhaps we should let Nicola Sturgeon bale out RBS and the other Scottish one whose name escapes me at the moment.
We are on the hook alright - ask Phillip Hammond

from JW: The EIB Hammond Deal remains hidden and undiscussed. We are talking in the region of a €150 billion medium-term cost to the UK which is completely unjustifiable. Worse still, we are on the line for a half trillion euros liability for any lending cockups this quite extraordinarily stupid bank might hatch with no power over its actions.

here:

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2019/10/09 ... s-cronies/
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Obviously, we should have stayed in the EU :lol:
As the poorly educated people made the wrong decision, god has sent the corona virus to punish us. ON BREXIT DAY.

What clearer sign is needed. There is still time to repent.
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Will be opening a bottle of Moet at 11. Going onto the roof balcony and watching the fireworks go off at eleven.
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