Lets have a low impact Christmas !

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Lets have a low impact Christmas !

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Seasonal energy saving suggestions.

1) Christmas lights if given significant use should be LED in the interest of energy saving, the difference is very considerable.
200 old fashioned lights could be 200 watts or more, but a similar number of LED lights are 10 watts or less.

2) Dont overdo the heating ! The heat input from cooking, extra lighting, candles, and the body heat of numerous visitors can be significant and should be anticipated by reducing heating levels rather than waiting until it is too hot and then opening the windows.

3) Minimise the use of disposable batteries for kids toys or christmas lighting. Consider rechargeables, mains adaptors or non electric alternatives.

4) Avoid food waste. An appalling amount of food is wasted in the festive season by over shopping for perishables, and by preparing too much "just in case"
For a traditional Christmas meal, try and prepare about 150% of the expected consumption of food, that relatively modest level of leftovers is easily eaten the next day. In case it is all eaten by hungrier or more numerous guests than expected, have something non perishable in reserve for subsequent days.

5) minimise non-reusable wrapping materials.

6) If you have a real Christmas tree, either recycle it or if you have a wood stove, cut it up for kindling. If neighbours have a real tree and no stove, offer to dispose of it after Christmas.

7) Do keep reusable decorations for subsequent years, a suprising number of people discard it all and buy new each year.
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8) Fúck Christmas. If you want to celebrate, then celebrate the solstice, it's more significant.
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My plan for Christmas is to redo the bed and library end of my tiny home, to add a few extra functions to it. Then I can insulate and finish the partition wall. This will involve extra electricity consumption to charge my drill/driver a few times, and maybe running the circular saw for a few minutes, but the insulation should help to reduce it for the rest of the winter. I may cook a Christmas dinner sometime, but it will probably be a day or two late.
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Time to re-visit this old thread I thought.

Christmas tends to be a time for partying, gift giving and celebrations even among those who are not practising Christians.

Do please think of both the wider environment, and of the less fortunate in society.

When buying gifts for friends or family, try to think perhaps of gifts that are useful rather than merely ornamental.
Bottles of spirits keep forever and make good gifts as they may be consumed, or stored against future needs.
Perishable food or drink is not so suitable due to the risk of waste.

Candles are a traditional gift, and keep well, they may be used over the festive season or stored against an uncertain future.

If you have friends or relatives who have fallen on hard times, don't be afraid to give rather utilitarian gifts of things that they might not be able to afford. Suggestions could include
A warm overcoat.
Thick pullovers.
A decent duvet.
A couple of blankets.
Firewood, if they have a stove.
Or even a few packs of loft insulation.

So far as possible, in such circumstances, consider gifts of long term utility rather than things quickly consumed.

And for your own celebrations please don't overdo the heating and other fuel use.
Think twice about use of incandescent Christmas lights.
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emordnilap wrote:8) F�ck Christmas. .
That' s how I felt a while ago. My sister in law was planning for Christmas Day and the subject was on what to have for a starter. We'd had a really good crop of beetroots that year so I suggested beetroot soup only to be scolded and lectured as to how " you don't have beetroot soup for Christmas ", not the done thing...
Still if anyone needs something for the house , something "everyday" but frankly has more money than sense pop over to tiffanys ,
http://www.tiffany.com/search/Everyday- ... ckbgfm=pdp
Seriously check out the tin can and the drinking straw amongst others :shock:
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emordnilap wrote:8) F�ck Christmas.
Best thing to do with it.
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Lurkalot wrote:
emordnilap wrote:8) F�ck Christmas. .
That' s how I felt a while ago. My sister in law was planning for Christmas Day and the subject was on what to have for a starter. We'd had a really good crop of beetroots that year so I suggested beetroot soup only to be scolded and lectured as to how " you don't have beetroot soup for Christmas ", not the done thing...
I've made Cranks' recipe borscht ever since we bought their recipe book back in the nineties and it's a highly impressive soup to present, a real jewel for any celebratory dinner. Cranks called it 'dramatic' and it is so.
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How about a new battery for the daughter's car so I don't have to repeatedly roll out of bed to give her a jump start on cold mornings? :) I'll stick a red ribbon bow on the hood of her car when I install it tomorrow.
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I have NEARLY finished putting up my Christmas lights.
About 5,000 lights I think :) but mainly LED.

Extra power used is negligible since most of them are used instead of normal lighting, not in addition.

Unlike certain friends in Wales who have decorated their Christmas tree with well over 1000 INCANDESCENT bulbs, over 2KW of lights on a tree.
I visited last year and it was certainly impressive, and arguably low impact as they are off grid and the power is largely from wind turbines.
But still, a 100 amp circuit and a dedicated fuseboard for the Christmas tree Might be considered a little OTT.
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adam2 wrote:I have NEARLY finished putting up my Christmas lights.
About 5,000 lights I think :) but mainly LED.

Extra power used is negligible since most of them are used instead of normal lighting, not in addition.

Unlike certain friends in Wales who have decorated their Christmas tree with well over 1000 INCANDESCENT bulbs, over 2KW of lights on a tree.
I visited last year and it was certainly impressive, and arguably low impact as they are off grid and the power is largely from wind turbines.
But still, a 100 amp circuit and a dedicated fuseboard for the Christmas tree Might be considered a little OTT.
More examples of ostentatious showing off resulting in LIGHT POLLUTION. LED or not, I’d ban all these hideous despoilers of natural night outside of buildings.
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Most of my Christmas lights are indoors and therefore add no more to light pollution than would the indoor lighting that would otherwise be used.

The outdoor Christmas lighting is hopefully no more polluting than the "normal" outdoor lighting which it replaces during the festive season.

I am legally required to provide a certain amount of outdoor lighting, as others have right of passage over parts of my property.
The area to be lit is not great, and is normally lit by 8 lamps each of which is 3 watts LED.
during the festive season this lighting is replaced by a similar wattage of decorative LED lighting.
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My low-impact Christmas is nicely shaping up to be the same as always - feck it, feck it, feck it and tell people so. Come and have a glass of wine and a laugh and a bit of music around the solstice.
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Am buying trips to the theatre as presents for the Renewable parents.

Time together is more important than objects, especially when there's already a house full of perfectly good stuff.

RenewableMum is giving copies of 'The Price of Time' to several of her mates :D
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Reasonably low impact Christmas underway.

Christmas lights all put up, mainly LED, no net increase in power consumption since they are used instead of other lighting, not in addition.
(most of the festive lights are on the UPS, ready for ye merry Christmas powercuts, of which I had the first one last night)

I have put up some of ye olde incandescent lights in one room because I like the retro look of them but these will only see very limited use.

I will give various useful goods to friends and family, mainly books and tools. Neighbours invited in to partake of mulled wine and mince pies.

I have had a great clear out, of old or surplus bedding in particular, anything useable but not wanted I have given to a local charity for the needy.
Items not fit for human use given to the RSPCA for animal bedding.
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Well, since I strongly suspect most of my neighbours are almost certainly on vastly lower incomes than the majority of posters on this forum and so will have already massively beaten most of you on the consumption and consequent carbon footprint stakes, I wish them nothing but the maximum, guilt-free festive cheer with their gaudy, brightly lit Xmas decorations adorning their homes with such "poor-taste". Some them even put their decorations up as early as November.

Oh... the horror
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