GM foods story in papers

Forum for general discussion of Peak Oil / Oil depletion; also covering related subjects

Moderator: Peak Moderation

Post Reply
northernraider
Posts: 42
Joined: 29 Sep 2012, 13:08

GM foods story in papers

Post by northernraider »

I was wondering what the forums in house agricultural experts made of this article, I dont have any experience in this contentious issue and wondered what the consensus was ?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... sects.html
Last edited by northernraider on 03 Oct 2012, 11:28, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
emordnilap
Posts: 14814
Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
Location: here

Post by emordnilap »

As this is PowerSwitch - with all the implications of a decline in quantity and quality of fossil energy - then use of any technology that requires massive inputs of that energy must also decline.

Not only that, no GM techology has so far produced a single benefit. No, that's not strictly true. The benefits to the shareholders of Syngenta, Bayer, Monsanto, etc are huge.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
User avatar
jonny2mad
Posts: 2452
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: weston super mare

Post by jonny2mad »

:shock: the monsanto family famous slave traders, the makers of agent orange etc etc

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... t-virginia

:shock: and now we should trust their GMO
"What causes more suffering in the world than the stupidity of the compassionate?"Friedrich Nietzsche

optimism is cowardice oswald spengler
Tarrel
Posts: 2466
Joined: 29 Nov 2011, 22:32
Location: Ross-shire, Scotland
Contact:

Post by Tarrel »

IMO, one of the most insidious and sinister aspects of GM crop manipulation, is the fact that the copyright to the DNA is effectively owned by the manufacturer. This makes the saving of seeds for replanting by farmers technically a copyright breach, meaning they are either locked in forever to buying seeds from the manufacturer each year, or run the risk of being sued. It's happened in Canada.
Engage in geo-engineering. Plant a tree today.
Tarrel
Posts: 2466
Joined: 29 Nov 2011, 22:32
Location: Ross-shire, Scotland
Contact:

Post by Tarrel »

Engage in geo-engineering. Plant a tree today.
User avatar
PS_RalphW
Posts: 6974
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: Cambridge

Post by PS_RalphW »

In Canada an (organic?) farmer was succesfully sued because he planted seeds which had been wind-pollinated from a neighbouring farm's GM crop.
Tarrel
Posts: 2466
Joined: 29 Nov 2011, 22:32
Location: Ross-shire, Scotland
Contact:

Post by Tarrel »

Yeah, I heard about that too. Seems like the manufacturers (no names mentioned!) have adopted a business model that involves securing the intellectual property, then just waiting for some hapless farmer to come along and fall into the legal trap. Spiders and webs come to mind. Not exactly a sustainable or customer-focused approach to business! :evil:
Engage in geo-engineering. Plant a tree today.
peaceful_life
Posts: 544
Joined: 21 Sep 2010, 16:20

Post by peaceful_life »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doZlgrVW ... e=youtu.be

Seeds of freedom.....

The story of seed has become one of loss, control, dependence and debt.
It's been written by those who want to make vast profit from our food system, no matter what the true cost. It's time to change the story.
User avatar
emordnilap
Posts: 14814
Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
Location: here

Post by emordnilap »

Some more must-see videos to download:

Genetic Roulette.
When the US government ignored repeated warnings by its own scientists and allowed untested genetically modified (GM) crops into our environment and food supply, it was a gamble of unprecedented proportions. The health of all living things and all future generations were put at risk by an infant technology.

After two decades, physicians and scientists have uncovered a grave trend. The same serious health problems found in lab animals, livestock, and pets that have been fed GM foods are now on the rise in the US population. And when people and animals stop eating genetically modified organisms (GMOs), their health improves.

This seminal documentary provides compelling evidence to help explain the deteriorating health of Americans, especially among children, and offers a recipe for protecting ourselves and our future.
Bitter Seeds.
The third film of San Francisco film-maker Micha X Peled's globalization trilogy blames US agribusiness giant Monsanto for a wave of farmer suicides that has claimed tens of thousands of lives across India's cotton belt.

In "Bitter Seeds" [...] Peled "suggests that impoverished cotton farmers in India have it especially tough because Monsanto has taken over the seed market with a genetically modified seed with hybrid technology that produces high yields but cannot renew itself," according to FirstPost.in.

Already, opposition to GM food crops, such as Bt Brinjal (genetically modified eggplant), has been fierce, with activists citing health and environmental concerns.
Please share the links - these videos are freely available.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
User avatar
emordnilap
Posts: 14814
Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
Location: here

Post by emordnilap »

Awareness in Kenya.
This she says was following the decision made by the cabinet to ban the importation of GMO foods into the country due to inadequate research done on GMOs and scientific evidence provided to prove the safety of the foods until such a time that the country will certify that they have no negative impacts on the health of consumers.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
User avatar
biffvernon
Posts: 18538
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: Lincolnshire
Contact:

Post by biffvernon »

Our environment minister seems to like GM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... n-paterson

Meanwhile, here's a fascinating account of biodiversity:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/ ... even-a-bee
kenneal - lagger
Site Admin
Posts: 14287
Joined: 20 Sep 2006, 02:35
Location: Newbury, Berkshire
Contact:

Post by kenneal - lagger »

Patterson is Environment Minister from DECC. He is not a DEFRA Minister who have control over that part of our environment. At least one Conservative DEFRA minister was an organic farmer before entering Parliament.
Action is the antidote to despair - Joan Baez
woodburner
Posts: 4124
Joined: 06 Apr 2009, 22:45

Post by woodburner »

emordnilap wrote:Some more must-see videos to download:

Genetic Roulette.

<snip>

Please share the links - these videos are freely available.
I get a "private video" message.
JavaScriptDonkey
Posts: 1683
Joined: 02 Jun 2011, 00:12
Location: SE England

Post by JavaScriptDonkey »

woodburner wrote:
emordnilap wrote:Some more must-see videos to download:

Genetic Roulette.

<snip>

Please share the links - these videos are freely available.
I get a "private video" message.
I should imagine the author has quite rightly been threatened with legal action for talking out his hat if the quotes are anything to go by.
The same serious health problems found in lab animals, livestock, and pets that have been fed GM foods are now on the rise in the US population. And when people and animals stop eating genetically modified organisms (GMOs), their health improves.
Probably just trying to sell colloidal silver or some other such nonsense.
User avatar
emordnilap
Posts: 14814
Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
Location: here

Post by emordnilap »

Products in India now have to have 'GM' printed on their packaging in their 'principal display panel'.

Mor here.

So simple, yet so difficult.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Post Reply