Clegg 'ready for Labour coalition'

What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

Moderator: Peak Moderation

Post Reply
Aurora

Clegg 'ready for Labour coalition'

Post by Aurora »

Press Association - 21/07/12

Nick Clegg would take the Liberal Democrats into a coalition after the next election which would put Ed Miliband in Number 10, he said.

The Deputy Prime Minister suggested his party would do its "duty" by working with Labour in the same way it is now in partnership with the Conservatives if voters fail to return an overall victor in 2015.

It comes after Business Secretary Vince Cable indicated he would be open to taking over leadership of the party, which has seen its popularity plummet since going into government with the Tories.

Article continues ...
:roll: :lol:

"Hello, is that Ed? Can I be in your gang now please mate?"

Image
User avatar
DominicJ
Posts: 4387
Joined: 18 Nov 2008, 14:34
Location: NW UK

Post by DominicJ »

Nothing really ground breaking in that announcement.....
I'm a realist, not a hippie
User avatar
UndercoverElephant
Posts: 13503
Joined: 10 Mar 2008, 00:00
Location: UK

Post by UndercoverElephant »

It is now in the interests of the LibDems to stab the Tories in the back as we approach the next election. It would also be entirely morally justified.
"We fail to mandate economic sanity because our brains are addled by....compassion." (Garrett Hardin)
User avatar
DominicJ
Posts: 4387
Joined: 18 Nov 2008, 14:34
Location: NW UK

Post by DominicJ »

UE
I must have missed where they ruled out forming a coalition with the Tories.....

All they are doing is confirming what every one should already have known.
And of course, heading off any "a vote for the liberals is a vote for thatcher none sense".
I'm a realist, not a hippie
User avatar
UndercoverElephant
Posts: 13503
Joined: 10 Mar 2008, 00:00
Location: UK

Post by UndercoverElephant »

DominicJ wrote:UE
I must have missed where they ruled out forming a coalition with the Tories.....
Forming another coalition with the Tories is likely to be politically impossible. It seemed unlikely before this coalition was formed, but in practice it has turned out that while David Cameron and Nick Clegg are politically close enough to work together, the bulk of the their two parties are not. The truth is that they hate each other.
"We fail to mandate economic sanity because our brains are addled by....compassion." (Garrett Hardin)
User avatar
nexus
Posts: 1305
Joined: 16 May 2009, 22:57

Post by nexus »

The truth is that they hate each other.
We hate their guts too........
Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Frederick Douglass
User avatar
DominicJ
Posts: 4387
Joined: 18 Nov 2008, 14:34
Location: NW UK

Post by DominicJ »

So if the results are the same as they were last time, you think the limpdumbs will join a rainbow coalition of everyone except the Tories?

326 is all the Tories need for a majority.
Add in the DUP and they were on 314 compared to a lab/lib 315.

SNP and WNP for the win?
Thats easy, the Tories exist in neither Scotland or Wales, we can offer full independance, what does a Lib/Lab coalition offer?
I'm a realist, not a hippie
User avatar
Mean Mr Mustard
Posts: 1555
Joined: 31 Dec 2006, 12:14
Location: Cambridgeshire

Post by Mean Mr Mustard »

Those three re-elected Lib Dem MPs will make all the difference to the balance of power. :roll: Which actually resides with the multinationals, not any elected government anyway.
1855 Advertisement for Kier's Rock Oil -
"Hurry, before this wonderful product is depleted from Nature’s laboratory."

The Future's so Bright, I gotta wear Night Vision Goggles...
revdode
Posts: 317
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: Hungary
Contact:

Post by revdode »

DominicJ wrote: SNP and WNP for the win?
Thats easy, the Tories exist in neither Scotland or Wales, we can offer full independance, what does a Lib/Lab coalition offer?
Interesting view. I've always said to my fellow countrymen who worry about independence that the SNP can't win this BUT the Tories could win it for them. Up until now I was working on the basis of a typical tory mess up, never occurred to me they would do it deliberately.
User avatar
UndercoverElephant
Posts: 13503
Joined: 10 Mar 2008, 00:00
Location: UK

Post by UndercoverElephant »

DominicJ wrote:So if the results are the same as they were last time, you think the limpdumbs will join a rainbow coalition of everyone except the Tories?
If there was an election now and it produced exactly the same result then I expect the result would be a minority tory government that wouldn't last very long, followed by another election.
Thats easy, the Tories exist in neither Scotland or Wales, we can offer full independance, what does a Lib/Lab coalition offer?
That's hilarious! Scotland doesn't want full independence. What the SNP wants is a fantasy - it wants full independence apart from using sterling and depending on the Bank of England as a lender of last resort. The SNP's project for independence turned into a joke at precisely the same time the eurozone turned into a joke.

What can a lib/lab coalition offer? In those circumstances, they could offer a progressive revolution in British politics. A lib/lab coalition with Ed Milliband as PM and Cable as Chancellor sounds about as perfect a result as I could have hoped for at any UK general election I've voted in. I suspect it would be viewed in a similar light north of the border, where both parties retain strong and historic power bases.
Last edited by UndercoverElephant on 22 Jul 2012, 18:15, edited 1 time in total.
"We fail to mandate economic sanity because our brains are addled by....compassion." (Garrett Hardin)
User avatar
UndercoverElephant
Posts: 13503
Joined: 10 Mar 2008, 00:00
Location: UK

Post by UndercoverElephant »

Mean Mr Mustard wrote:Those three re-elected Lib Dem MPs will make all the difference to the balance of power. :roll: Which actually resides with the multinationals, not any elected government anyway.
Only because the politicians are scared of challenging the corporations. The actual power lies with the politicians, if only they were inclined to use it.
"We fail to mandate economic sanity because our brains are addled by....compassion." (Garrett Hardin)
Post Reply