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UndercoverElephant wrote:This is not a discussion about what you think. It is about what UNWGAD think. And they think he is beiong detained.
And I have obtained a copy of their report explaining why they think he is being detained. I have then quoted from that report giving their reasons. They reasons may not be the same as you think they are, but those are their reasons. That is quite clearly the definitive answer to your question.
UndercoverElephant wrote:Therefore the big picture is that UNWGAD agree that there is a conspiracy to get Assange into US custody, hence they ruled that he is being arbitrarily detained.
That, however, is not what their report says.
UndercoverElephant wrote:And you, for whatever reason, are aligned with that conspiracy. Your motive in this debate is to mislead. You are fooling nobody.
You are wrong. I have quoted from the UNWGAD report that demonstrates you are wrong. There is such a thing as reality and from time to time it is possible to determine what reality is. In this case they have published a report to explain their reasoning.
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Whatever, John. Have a nice afternoon. :D
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New Mass Movement Aims To Liberate Julian Assange: #JA4Me

http://www.mintpressnews.com/MyMPN/new- ... nge-ja4me/
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I think the late John Jones QC may have been involved in Assange's defence.

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http://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/may ... s-obituary
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There were two people taking refuge in the Zimbabwean embassy for about 3 weeks, but they escaped last week.
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Another nobbled court
"The district court finds that there is still probable cause for the suspicion against JA [Julian Assange] for rape, less serious incident, and that there is still a risk that he will depart or in some other way evade prosecution or penalty," the court said in a statement.
This is utter bullshit, every last word.
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In February the U.N. found that his detention was unlawful and that the governments of the U.K. and Sweden must set him free and award him compensation. Although the U.N. issued a note to editors that its decision is ultimately "legally binding", many reporters simply repeated the U.K. talking point, blasted out through the BBC, claiming it is not.

After huffing and puffing and threatening to blow the U.N. human rights system down, the U.K. has done everything in its power to bury the U.N.'s finding. The U.K. resorted to gunboat diplomacy, threatening Ecuador with severe trade and cooperation repercussions unless they coughed up Assange. The U.K. has also refused him safe access to a hospital for tests and treatment, perhaps in the hope that his health will eventually deteriorate to such a degree that the "Assange problem" will go away on its own.


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So say his lawyers.

Earlier this year I dealt with a 16 year old boy who ran from the authorities into the Zimbabwean embassy and then lived there for 3 weeks before escaping to Zimbabwe. To be fair he was subject to masses of injunctions so very little has been reported about his case (although I got a bit out via PA about a fortnight ago).

My view on Assange has not changed and that he should go to Sweden. I refer to all of my previous posts on this thread.
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However, he no longer needs to go to Sweden because, supposedly, they've finally agreed to come to him:

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive ... ge/495434/

No date has been set yet though, so who knows if it will actually happen.
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That's a sensible solution.
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johnhemming2 wrote:So say his lawyers.

Earlier this year I dealt with a 16 year old boy who ran from the authorities into the Zimbabwean embassy and then lived there for 3 weeks before escaping to Zimbabwe. To be fair he was subject to masses of injunctions so very little has been reported about his case (although I got a bit out via PA about a fortnight ago).

My view on Assange has not changed and that he should go to Sweden. I refer to all of my previous posts on this thread.
Your view may not have changed, the UN thinks otherwise.
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Automaton wrote:However, he no longer needs to go to Sweden because, supposedly, they've finally agreed to come to him:
They've said that before.
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Post by PS_RalphW »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37680411

Wikileaks claims Assange's internet access has been 'cut' , suggesting it is linked
to release of the leaked Clinton emails, and as a result of 'state action'.
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I have a funny feeling he has some major crap on Clinton and some kind of nod has been passed his way from the Trump camp that a Trump presidency might stop chasing Assange. It's just a hunch.
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