Not sure about that one. Lower capital cost, but a well built bridge can last a very long time.
Costs are not really issues here; cost means different things to different people.
A modern bridge needs masses of energy and maintenance and can spoil the view, though I like the idea they have in Germany, where they build bridges for animals to use over motorways.
A ferry can utilise existing boats and it doesn't have to be there all the time.
Though I agree it's not cut-and-dried; re the resilience/efficiency issue, the ferry is more resilient in a resource-constrained world. Bridges can be prone to damage from extreme weather while the boat waits in harbour.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
I, too, was concerned about the ferry v's bridge analogy because there are an awful lot of moving parts on a ferry that can wear out and need replacing. A bridge, however, and depending on how it's constructed, doesn't have any/many moving parts to replace, doesn't require any fuel or lubrication and doesn't need a permanent staff to run it.
Also the vegetarian v's meat eater. Most meat eaters are omnivores, especially the human kind, so if their meat food source in lacking in quantity or quality they can gain their sustenance from another source. In case of drought there will be meat available for much longer than vegetable sources of food. If a vegetarian loses their food source they have nothing to fall back on.
I and my family are all meat eaters but we usually have meat and two, three or four veg at any one time. We also occasionally eat vegetarian food and we grow all sorts of different foods so we can always get our nutritional requirements locally. I know of quite a few veggies/vegans who rely on some imported foods to make up their diets.
Not sure about that one. Lower capital cost, but a well built bridge can last a very long time.
I'm sure. The bridge wins hands down.
Take the George Washington bridge in NY. Built for 75 million it carries 312,000 vehicles a day and brings in a million dollars a day in tolls. Toll is presently $14.00 for a car. Think how many ferries it would take to do that and how much the tickets would cost.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
A modern bridge needs masses of energy and maintenance and can spoil the view, though I like the idea they have in Germany, where they build bridges for animals to use over motorways.
We do that here, many of the bridges over our motorways are for cattle but are presumably also used by wildlife. We have built bat bridges before and have incorporated a dormice crossing into a sign gantry.
I got closer to the correct answer than the UK average answer on all but two questions.
My final score was that I now the UK better than the average citizen of any of the countries knows their own country. (ie I came first in the final listing).
A little OT but useful for highlighting your own misconceptions when considering teotwawki.
I got similar results to yourself ie above UK average, but really got it wrong regarding the amount of women in parliament, the number of young people, and the number of overweight/obese.....
Not sure about that one. Lower capital cost, but a well built bridge can last a very long time.
I'm sure. The bridge wins hands down.
Take the George Washington bridge in NY. Built for 75 million it carries 312,000 vehicles a day and brings in a million dollars a day in tolls. Toll is presently $14.00 for a car. Think how many ferries it would take to do that and how much the tickets would cost.
I'm not going to argue with the figures you quote , the bridge does certainly win. However , I do feel the figures skew the argument somewhat. You know your own country better than I but I suspect it would be true to say that before the bridge was built there weren't over 300,000 vehicles travelling by ferry or presumably making the longer road trip ( sorry I don't know the exact geographic situation) ? So the very presence of that bridge has generated an increase in traffic to the 312,000 figure all of which are emitting their fumes as they do so. I understand there would be a huge amount of calculations to determine wether it is better to have a bridge and lots of traffic or a ferry with less traffic plus those who decide to drive the long way round.
Not sure about that one. Lower capital cost, but a well built bridge can last a very long time.
I'm sure. The bridge wins hands down.
Take the George Washington bridge in NY. Built for 75 million it carries 312,000 vehicles a day and brings in a million dollars a day in tolls. Toll is presently $14.00 for a car. Think how many ferries it would take to do that and how much the tickets would cost.
I'm not going to argue with the figures you quote , the bridge does certainly win. However , I do feel the figures skew the argument somewhat. You know your own country better than I but I suspect it would be true to say that before the bridge was built there weren't over 300,000 vehicles travelling by ferry or presumably making the longer road trip ( sorry I don't know the exact geographic situation) ? So the very presence of that bridge has generated an increase in traffic to the 312,000 figure all of which are emitting their fumes as they do so. I understand there would be a huge amount of calculations to determine wether it is better to have a bridge and lots of traffic or a ferry with less traffic plus those who decide to drive the long way round.
Well put.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Not sure about that one. Lower capital cost, but a well built bridge can last a very long time.
I'm sure. The bridge wins hands down.
Take the George Washington bridge in NY. Built for 75 million it carries 312,000 vehicles a day and brings in a million dollars a day in tolls. Toll is presently $14.00 for a car. Think how many ferries it would take to do that and how much the tickets would cost.
I'm not going to argue with the figures you quote , the bridge does certainly win. However , I do feel the figures skew the argument somewhat. You know your own country better than I but I suspect it would be true to say that before the bridge was built there weren't over 300,000 vehicles travelling by ferry or presumably making the longer road trip ( sorry I don't know the exact geographic situation) ? So the very presence of that bridge has generated an increase in traffic to the 312,000 figure all of which are emitting their fumes as they do so. I understand there would be a huge amount of calculations to determine wether it is better to have a bridge and lots of traffic or a ferry with less traffic plus those who decide to drive the long way round.
I see, the build it and they will come argument!
Actually The GW carries I-95 through New York and the city on it's way from Maine to Florida which is arguably one of the busiest highways in the world with many sections carrying over 200,000 VPD. Before the interstate was built rail roads paralleled the entire route so the demand for the service was already there and the highway freed people from the high fares the railroads enjoyed while they held a monopoly.
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Actually The GW carries I-95 through New York and the city on it's way from Maine to Florida which is arguably one of the busiest highways in the world with many sections carrying over 200,000 VPD. Before the interstate was built rail roads paralleled the entire route so the demand for the service was already there and the highway freed people from the high fares the railroads enjoyed while they held a monopoly.
So if we are talking purely in the terms of efficiency and not bringing money and profit into the equation the original statement could be expanded to , road bridge v ferry , rail bridge v ferry and maybe even rail bridge v road bridge.
I got closer to the correct answer than the UK average answer on all but two questions.
My final score was that I now the UK better than the average citizen of any of the countries knows their own country. (ie I came first in the final listing).
A little OT but useful for highlighting your own misconceptions when considering teotwawki.
Worth a few minutes of your time.
Yes, I too got a #1 ranking despite getting a couple of questions badly wrong. Better than most quizzes one finds on the internet.
