New coronavirus in/from China

[vtsnowedin]

Blowing ones nose with a hankie is frowned upon in China and outright forbidden in Japan..

I wonder what a person that needs to blow their nose is supposed to do instead?

[UndercoverElephant]

From much the same psychological profile of people who bought into "basket of deplorables" and "Brexshit" we now have "lock-down" cheerleaders only too eager to parrot unsubstantiated bollocks fed to them by an establishment compliant MSM and to snitch on their neighbors. This little adventure, though, cuts across those lines a bit and has picked up sheep from both sides.

You're wrong, Steve. It is you who is parroting unsubstantiated bollocks. Your position is based on a claim that we know things about this virus that we simply do not know. This is a new disease, and there are unknowable risks associated with it. What you want - which is to allow the virus to take its course while protecting the most vulnerable - is not going to happen. Not enough people who you want to classify as "not vulnerable" are going to allow themselves to be classified so. They do not want to return to normal, because they are scared of the virus, and they have good reason to be scared.

[BritDownUnder]

Blowing ones nose with a hankie is frowned upon in China and outright forbidden in Japan..

I wonder what a person that needs to blow their nose is supposed to do instead?

You go to the toilet stall. Blow your nose with the toilet paper and flush it down the toilet. The wash your hands. Surprisingly when I was working in Japan I found after a few days of very little nose blowing (all done in secret) that your nose stops running.

No handshaking either. The Japanese are heavily into bowing and head nodding.

[kenneal - lagger]

Blowing ones nose with a hankie is frowned upon in China and outright forbidden in Japan..

I wonder what a person that needs to blow their nose is supposed to do instead?

You go to the toilet stall. Blow your nose with the toilet paper and flush it down the toilet. The wash your hands. Surprisingly when I was working in Japan I found after a few days of very little nose blowing (all done in secret) that your nose stops running.

No handshaking either. The Japanese are heavily into bowing and head nodding.

What an horrendous waste of water. In the South East of the UK that would lead to water shortages most years and many parts of Australia too I would think.

[Mark]

I think the Chinese are also more well disciplined in personal hygiene. Wearing of face masks was normal before this outbreak. Blowing ones nose with a hankie is frowned upon in China and outright forbidden in Japan. I am not sure about hand hygiene but just the two things above probably helped a lot in preventing spread. With this disease these things matter a lot.

My experience in that part of the world is a bit dated (90s). I'd defo agree with you on Japan (& S. Korea), but not with China. My experience was widespread spitting (inc. restaurant floors), shared wooden chopsticks, terrible toilets, etc. etc., but habits might have changed now...

[fuzzy]

I have just heard of someone who already had a 12 week NHS letter - receiving another one with another 12 weeks. It might be just a glitch or maybe everyone will. Note these clowns in public teat world have not explained what employed people are supposed to do?

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Could there be something we haven't been told?

The Chinese reaction and the later global reaction to COVID-19 seem very aggressive.

I don't normally wear a tinfoil hat ... but is there something about this virus we don't know?

I was taken aback by the scale of the Chines response in January - but in hindsight they were absolutely right. They did manage to contain significant community spread to just one small region and even accounting to significant under-reporting of deaths they are certainly in the thousands, not hundreds of thousands on even low millions that a minimal approach might have resulted in. Their economic damage will also be a lot less than ours.

That reaction might have something to do with their knowing or at least suspecting it to be a lab creation? Chris Martenson's latest...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo

[Vortex2]

Could there be something we haven't been told?

The Chinese reaction and the later global reaction to COVID-19 seem very aggressive.

I don't normally wear a tinfoil hat ... but is there something about this virus we don't know?

I was taken aback by the scale of the Chines response in January - but in hindsight they were absolutely right. They did manage to contain significant community spread to just one small region and even accounting to significant under-reporting of deaths they are certainly in the thousands, not hundreds of thousands on even low millions that a minimal approach might have resulted in. Their economic damage will also be a lot less than ours.

That reaction might have something to do with their knowing or at least suspecting it to be a lab creation? Chris Martenson's latest...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo

Impressive video .. quite scary.

Lot's of bum covering going on.

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Lot's of bum covering going on.

Mine's squeaky.

[vtsnowedin]

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What you want - which is to allow the virus to take its course while protecting the most vulnerable - is not going to happen. Not enough people who you want to classify as "not vulnerable" are going to allow themselves to be classified so. They do not want to return to normal, because they are scared of the virus, and they have good reason to be scared.

I think you are off in that assessment, concerned yes, afraid ? No. I think there will be plenty of people in the USA at least that will take their chances and get on with life. The UK may of course be more timid. But can you afford to be?

[Vortex2]

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What you want - which is to allow the virus to take its course while protecting the most vulnerable - is not going to happen. Not enough people who you want to classify as "not vulnerable" are going to allow themselves to be classified so. They do not want to return to normal, because they are scared of the virus, and they have good reason to be scared.

I think you are off in that assessment, concerned yes, afraid ? No. I think there will be plenty of people in the USA at least that will take their chances and get on with life. The UK may of course be more timid. But can you afford to be?

The ones 'getting on with life' will be killing others.

[boisdevie]

The ones 'getting on with life' will be killing others.

Nice. Question the morality of those who question this narrative that the lockdown will save lives and the NHS. I'm not going to cough all over granny but neither am I going to let this government dictate when I can go and see my girlfriend.

And I do like the NHS - so much so that I gave them a kidney to pass onto somone else.

[vtsnowedin]

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What you want - which is to allow the virus to take its course while protecting the most vulnerable - is not going to happen. Not enough people who you want to classify as "not vulnerable" are going to allow themselves to be classified so. They do not want to return to normal, because they are scared of the virus, and they have good reason to be scared.

I think you are off in that assessment, concerned yes, afraid ? No. I think there will be plenty of people in the USA at least that will take their chances and get on with life. The UK may of course be more timid. But can you afford to be?

The ones 'getting on with life' will be killing others.

Those insisting on longer lockdowns will kill far more.

[kenneal - lagger]

In the US, maybe, VT. In more socially concerned countries we have a safety net. In the US you all seem to be more concerned with keeping the wealth of the top 0.1% topped up.

[vtsnowedin]

In the US, maybe, VT. In more socially concerned countries we have a safety net. In the US you all seem to be more concerned with keeping the wealth of the top 0.1% topped up.

What you are missing at present is that your safety net is fine if you have five or ten percent of the population in it with the other ninety percent holding up the sides and providing the rope for the net. Order fifty percent more to jump into the net and you will have not enough holding the edges and smaller and weaker rope making up the net and it will fall away letting you into the abyss.