the frack thread

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 08 May 2014, 14:29

PS_RalphW wrote:House of lords shows its true colours (black and sticky)

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... -shale-gas

Hmmm. I imagine most of 'em will dead and gone once their recommendations come on stream.

cubes · Post by **cubes** » 08 May 2014, 15:57

Black and sticky? brown and envelope sized more like.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 08 May 2014, 16:01

cubes wrote:Black and sticky? brown and envelope sized more like.

As in Lord?

Ralph · Post by **Ralph** » 08 May 2014, 19:36

emordnilap wrote:Texas family plagued with ailments gets $3M in 1st-of-its-kind fracking judgment

Here's to many, many more such vindications.

It was an air pollution law suit. Toxic air pollutants and diesel fumes.

You could sue the local rail yard for the same issues. Or coal plant. Or natural gas compressor station. Or owner of the backup generator at your local hospital. Or the people that are doing construction next door.

Is this how desperate folks have become to bash hydraulic fracturing, they have to pretend that air pollution is the same thing as the water being pumped in UNDER the property? Gee…water being pumped underground…and air pollution…one is air pollution…the other isn't….idea! Lets blame the consequence on the one don't like and pretend it is the first things fault!!

Come on folks, while this type of nonsense might be expected from the royals, you normal Brits can at least do better than the average American nowadays…can't you?

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 09 May 2014, 02:29

Ralph wrote: Come on folks, while this type of nonsense might be expected from the royals, you normal Brits can at least do better than the average American nowadays…can't you?

Do better. In what way? While I see a lot of anti government sentiment here from you Brits.I don't see much willingness or ability to do anything about it. That is a bit harsh but where am I wrong?

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 09 May 2014, 07:32

vtsnowedin wrote:
Ralph wrote: Come on folks, while this type of nonsense might be expected from the royals, you normal Brits can at least do better than the average American nowadays…can't you?

Do better. In what way? While I see a lot of anti government sentiment here from you Brits.I don't see much willingness or ability to do anything about it. That is a bit harsh but where am I wrong?

Harsh but true, sadly.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 09 May 2014, 16:48

VT, we are doing it in a very British manner, viz, we are sabotaging the government by none of us actually earning enough to pay any taxes. Starve the beast.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 09 May 2014, 18:01

RenewableCandy wrote:VT, we are doing it in a very British manner, viz, we are sabotaging the government by none of us actually earning enough to pay any taxes. Starve the beast.

So that is what I'm doing wrong. The US IRS is glad that I "Have what IT takes"

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 15 May 2014, 19:22

The Lords' vested interests: http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/newsdesk/e ... ws/who-are

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 16 May 2014, 11:45

biffvernon wrote:The Lords' vested interests: http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/newsdesk/e ... ws/who-are

Unsurprising. I wondered about 'that sort of thing' when I read of the "lords" (what a pile of bollix this lord thing is) recommendations. Thanks for that Biff.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 21 May 2014, 13:21

Good to see Mobbsy hard at work documenting the next big problem

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2014- ... en-nastier

UGC does appear to make fracking look like biochar in comparison, given
this litany of environmental contamination.

I often suspect that TPTB play up relatively minor issues like earthquakes from fracking to distract and discredit the 'professional protest' brigade from the real deal.

Town gas was toxic at so many levels. I thought we had seen the last of it decades ago.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 21 May 2014, 14:21

Good man Paul. A cracker of an article - very thorough and precise - and he's just the kind of person we need in government in numbers.

cubes · Post by **cubes** » 21 May 2014, 16:35

U.S. officials cut estimate of recoverable Monterey Shale oil by 96%

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-o ... story.html

Tarrel · Post by **Tarrel** » 21 May 2014, 16:50

The Monterey Shale formation contains about two-thirds of the nation's shale oil reserves.

So, 96% of two-thirds of the nation's reserves equals..a heck of a big hole in the strategic planning.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 21 May 2014, 16:56

cubes wrote:U.S. officials cut estimate of recoverable Monterey Shale oil by 96%

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-o ... story.html

I was confident I had about €2,000 in my pocket but, when I checked, it was only eighty quid.