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What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

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PS_RalphW wrote:Not all globalism is bad. We need global action to curb green house gasses. We got global action on CFCs to reverse the ozone hole. Global action eradicated smallpox and is on the brink of defeating polio.

Local good global bad is far too simplistic.
It's not even about local good versus global bad (though, often, that is precisely the case). It is about the the inevitability of a return to localism as the complexity of our global civilization inevitably reduces. I am saying we don't even get a choice in it. The only choice we do get, if we are very clever and very lucky, is what form that localism takes.
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PS_RalphW wrote:Not all globalism is bad. We need global action to curb green house gasses. We got global action on CFCs to reverse the ozone hole. Global action eradicated smallpox and is on the brink of defeating polio.

Local good global bad is far too simplistic.
Global cooperation is good but "Globalism" as practised by our multi national corporations and their political placemen is almost invariably bad for the ordinary person.
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PS_RalphW wrote:Not all globalism is bad. We need global action to curb green house gasses. We got global action on CFCs to reverse the ozone hole. Global action eradicated smallpox and is on the brink of defeating polio.
Thus helping to send the human race well into population overshoot. Dandy!
Local good global bad is far too simplistic.
Yes it is too simplistic, but so is the idea that globalism is always good, and that's pretty much the line that TPTB push.
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Little John wrote:It is about the the inevitability of a return to localism as the complexity of our global civilization inevitably reduces. I am saying we don't even get a choice in it. The only choice we do get, if we are very clever and very lucky, is what form that localism takes.
Spot on. A wise man (Fleming) once said:
"Localisation stands, at best, at the limits of practical possibility, but it has the decisive argument in its favour that there will be no alternative."
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