Do they bollocks. Or, at least, they are simply left wing (ish). Additionally, much of what they write is political in nature and so is often based on a left wing analysis which is neither "correct" nor "incorrect" in objective terms. It depends on one's ideological prejudices. And my prejudices mean I do not always agree with them by any means.
In broad terms, they are no more or less likely to be telling the truth than any of our mainstream broadcasters these days and, in some cases, a lot more likely.
Don't tell me you only believe it if those "officially sanctioned fact-checkers" told you it was true and it was reported on the BBC......
Deaths now reported as being 132.
Confirmed cases now reported as being nearly 6,000.
Australia has announced plans to isolate persons evacuated from china, on Christmas island. Sounds fairly sensible if properly managed.
Meanwhile the UK plans to return British evacuees to the UK mainland and turn them loose. Cant imagine our lot sending evacuees to Pitcairn island or the Falklands.
"Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more"
UK evacuees are going to be quarantined for two weeks, possibly in a military facility, according to various news reports. Lots of other countries have evacuations in progress now, I wonder if they're doing strict quarantine as well?
mikepepler wrote:UK evacuees are going to be quarantined for two weeks, possibly in a military facility, according to various news reports. Lots of other countries have evacuations in progress now, I wonder if they're doing strict quarantine as well?
Report from the hospital in New Hampshire says they are using a negative pressure room to isolate the patient so yes they are being quite serious about it.
mikepepler wrote:UK evacuees are going to be quarantined for two weeks, possibly in a military facility, according to various news reports. Lots of other countries have evacuations in progress now, I wonder if they're doing strict quarantine as well?
If UK evacuees are actually quarantined for two weeks, in a military or other suitable facility, then TPTB will go up in my estimation.
I suspect however that there will be a number of exemptions and exceptions and the procedure will be rendered ineffective.
"Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more"
mikepepler wrote:UK evacuees are going to be quarantined for two weeks, possibly in a military facility, according to various news reports. Lots of other countries have evacuations in progress now, I wonder if they're doing strict quarantine as well?
Report from the hospital in New Hampshire says they are using a negative pressure room to isolate the patient so yes they are being quite serious about it.
That's an ill person though - these are just UK people who have been in Wuhan but aren't (yet) ill that will be quarantined. I gather the USA is flying people back from Wuhan - do you know if they will have quarantine too?
mikepepler wrote:UK evacuees are going to be quarantined for two weeks, possibly in a military facility, according to various news reports. Lots of other countries have evacuations in progress now, I wonder if they're doing strict quarantine as well?
Report from the hospital in New Hampshire says they are using a negative pressure room to isolate the patient so yes they are being quite serious about it.
That's an ill person though - these are just UK people who have been in Wuhan but aren't (yet) ill that will be quarantined. I gather the USA is flying people back from Wuhan - do you know if they will have quarantine too?
Not sure about that as yet. My source at the US CDC says they have sent some staffers to help out at airports but other actions are still being developed.
mikepepler wrote:UK evacuees are going to be quarantined for two weeks, possibly in a military facility, according to various news reports. Lots of other countries have evacuations in progress now, I wonder if they're doing strict quarantine as well?
If UK evacuees are actually quarantined for two weeks, in a military or other suitable facility, then TPTB will go up in my estimation.
I suspect however that there will be a number of exemptions and exceptions and the procedure will be rendered ineffective.
Yeah, I'm sure anyone with money or influence will find a way round it. The whole thing's ridiculous anyway, there are probably people all over the UK infected but with no symptoms yet.
On the one hand, quarantining is a good thing, But, on the other, I was listening to the "World at One" an hour ago and the question was asked if someone started showing symptoms, what would happen? The answer was that they would be removed from the group quarters and taken to a place of isolation. However, since this disease is transmissible during the 14 day gestation period, it then becomes highly likely they will have infected all of the others in the group during the time they were together.
Surely, the only sensible way to quarantine these people is in separate quarters?
If I was one of those people on my way back to the UK right now and i was currently showing no symptoms, I would not be happy to be put into group quarters with a load of other people, some of whom may have the virus gestating inside them. Or, indeed, be happy at the possibility that it was gestating inside me and I was passing it on to them.
Perhaps those with influence could be isolated at a luxury hotel of their choice.
Room service ? certainly sir.
Would sir like a drink in the bar before visiting our restaurant ?
Visitors, of course sir, in your room, or perhaps the lounge would be suitable.
And the hotel bedding, and perhaps the clothing of the guest, sent to a laundry that uses a low temperature process.
And the room service waiter who latter becomes sick has their zero hours contract terminated, and their later whereabouts are unknown.
And the dozen guests from a different hotel, that used the same laundry, fall sick a week or two later, after half a dozen air flights.
"Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more"
vtsnowedin wrote:Report from the hospital in New Hampshire says they are using a negative pressure room to isolate the patient so yes they are being quite serious about it.
That's an ill person though - these are just UK people who have been in Wuhan but aren't (yet) ill that will be quarantined. I gather the USA is flying people back from Wuhan - do you know if they will have quarantine too?
Not sure about that as yet. My source at the US CDC says they have sent some staffers to help out at airports but other actions are still being developed.
"Breaking News: US flight evacuating citizens out of Wuhan has been redirected while the flight was in progress. The plane was originally set to land at Ontario international Airport in California, but will now land at March Air Force Base in Riverside county, CA. "
That negative air pressure isolation room in New Hampshire must be a BSL level 4 (bio safety level four) which is the top of the line. You enter through an air lock wearing a full bunny suit with its own air supply. On leaving you are chemically showered in your suit then get another shower after removing it. Everything in and out of the room is disinfected.
If you are the patent and go into cardiac arrest you will be dead before the staff can suit up to reach you. https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/infographics/biosafety.htm
