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From Griffin's blog... http://chairmanscolumn.blogspot.com/
As a party which believes deeply in the need to preserve human cultural and ethnic diversity, and therefore opposes integration, we wouldn't let them join the BNP, but if the manager of the English team thinks they're his best chance of picking a winning team, that choice is entirely up to him.
How do you square that circle? Surely ethnic diversity is the result of integration?

Interestingly, the BNP is still the only political party that has a major section on Peak Oil (which is still linked from its front page). For the other parties there are only a few articles giving passing mention, which you have to search for.
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That doesn't stop the guy being completely evil. He's probably realised that most of the oil is owned by non-whites.
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Bandidoz wrote:How do you square that circle? Surely ethnic diversity is the result of integration?
I think the argument goes that if all the cultures try to integrate and sacrifice their distinctiveness in order to 'tolerate' one another, then diversity is lost and in its place comes a rather bland mush with the consistency of tension and the taste of meaninglessness.

Therefore if each culture stays apart from one another, the 'purity' and therefore diversity of the many cultures is maintained.

Which is a polite way of saying, "We like our culture and we don't like yours, so please piss off out of our island, thankyou very much."

It's almost a rational position until it stops being about culture and starts being about skin colour.
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As time goes by and the established parties fail to measure up, I get more and more pessimistic. When faced with hardships, people have a tendency to gather around anyone who accept the role of "strong leader", and then elevate and worship that person. Goes with human nature I guess. Has happened before and will probably happen again.

BNP and similar grunts might actually have a field day when the existing system fail to provide explanations and a map to the future. Weimar revisited. Quite depressing.
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Tess wrote:in its place comes a rather bland mush with the consistency of tension and the taste of meaninglessness....if each culture stays apart from one another, the 'purity' and diversity of the many cultures is maintained.
Agreed but when considering the history of Britain it turns out that our kingdom is built on a meaningless mush. To my mind being "British" is about assimilating every invader's genes and culture. That's what makes us "rich". We don't have the tribal Eastern European tensions that still persist. We don't have people who dance around maypoles or partake in pagan rituals trying to destroy curry houses. We embrace change.

Our main cultural identity is probably football. Possibly also the Royal Family. Possibly also the law and parliamentary systems, and also being arguably the best in popular music. We also have a history of having a cunning military. I don't see how immigration could possibly successfullly water them down.

A policy of cultural purity would thus be everything that being British isn't, so I find the BNP having such policies to be rather paradoxical.

I think people spend a lot of time extrapolating into the future without understanding our past. Britain is the Borg. Prepare to be assimilated!
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Bandidoz wrote:
Tess wrote:in its place comes a rather bland mush with the consistency of tension and the taste of meaninglessness.
Agreed but when considering the history of Britain it turns out that our kingdom is built on a meaningless mush. To my mind being "British" is about assimilating every invader's genes and culture. That's what makes us "rich". We don't have the tribal Eastern European tensions that still persist. We don't have people who dance around maypoles or partake in pagan rituals trying to destroy curry houses. We embrace it.
A fair argument, and I hope it's successful. I don't think you're right about 'Britishness' however. The saxons were quite distinct to the norse, and to the normans, and I don't perceive any natural trait of assimilation in our genetic makeup. My family's history is among the Normans so I understand, and we only assimilated the parts of saxon culture we couldn't replace. I think actually cultures fight quite hard to preserve their uniqueness. I'm not sure why. If only the French would speak English, I'm sure a lot of difficulties would be immediately resolved... :)
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