+1eatyourveg wrote: My cat makes more sense than you.
My cat makes quite a lot of sense actually.
world reserve growth - a key cache that allows PeakOil idea
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My cat makes quite a lot of sense actually.
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Eternal Sunshine wrote: I wouldn't want to worry you with the truth.
By the way, what is this thread actually about? I haven't deciphered the title yet.
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Re: world reserve growth - a key cache that allows PeakOil i
Sorry meemoe, but that is just pure intellectual masturbation!meemoe_uk wrote:At no time has it been economic for any group to look for and study new oil reserves when there's already 30 years worth of proven accessible reserves known to exist.
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meemoe_uk
>Wow, someone got out of bed the wrong side today. Where's all this vitriol come from?
That was at me clv101?
I have to say, This is one of most weird forums I've been on.
I thought postie was a one off, but now we seem to be swimming in posts by brainwashed ADHD kids, trained like dogs to snarl at any nonconformer.
But the weirdest part is,
the site admin thinks this is OK, while if anyone takes some time to write out some explanatory point of view, then _that_ is out of order, or a sign of an imbalanced mind.
What do you think to people who write books clv101? It takes 1000 times more effort, they have 1000 times more vitriol than me?
Since it looks like no one 'cept RGR is going to post on topic here, we might as well speculate just what the long term plan for these packs of ADHD ritalin demoralised kids are.
Cannon fodder for the next war?
We keep seeing countries around the world going thru destabilizations, of which armed brainwashed kids play a vital part.
Maybe they are planning one here? These eatyourveg and postie kids don't strike me as useful to build anything. Destroy things, yes, they've got the idealogy - the whole worlds going to end soon, so lets just forget all hope and kill each other.
That was at me clv101?
I have to say, This is one of most weird forums I've been on.
I thought postie was a one off, but now we seem to be swimming in posts by brainwashed ADHD kids, trained like dogs to snarl at any nonconformer.
But the weirdest part is,
the site admin thinks this is OK, while if anyone takes some time to write out some explanatory point of view, then _that_ is out of order, or a sign of an imbalanced mind.
What do you think to people who write books clv101? It takes 1000 times more effort, they have 1000 times more vitriol than me?
Since it looks like no one 'cept RGR is going to post on topic here, we might as well speculate just what the long term plan for these packs of ADHD ritalin demoralised kids are.
Cannon fodder for the next war?
We keep seeing countries around the world going thru destabilizations, of which armed brainwashed kids play a vital part.
Maybe they are planning one here? These eatyourveg and postie kids don't strike me as useful to build anything. Destroy things, yes, they've got the idealogy - the whole worlds going to end soon, so lets just forget all hope and kill each other.
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meemoe_uk
>By the way, what is this thread actually about? I haven't deciphered the title yet.
You won't be able to. It requires digesting the 1st post, I don't see that you've even read it. Your ADHD will prevent this.
Dont' even try. stick with what you've been trained to do by twitter.
e.g.
>>>>>>>> Roflz
>>>>>>> right m8, gr8 lolz
>>>>>> cum on, geez
>>>>> yoyoyoyo
>>>> What?
>>> Erm yeah?
>> Hi!
>Sup?
You've been covertly trained to not dicuss stuff in net forums. Anyone trying to debate will be drowned out by kids posting approx one liner 'comeback' lines. review this thread for an e.g.
From what I've seen, this is closer to the depth in debate, outside your PO training, you can handle. If one of you does manage to break free and read something, post the news here.
You won't be able to. It requires digesting the 1st post, I don't see that you've even read it. Your ADHD will prevent this.
Dont' even try. stick with what you've been trained to do by twitter.
e.g.
>>>>>>>> Roflz
>>>>>>> right m8, gr8 lolz
>>>>>> cum on, geez
>>>>> yoyoyoyo
>>>> What?
>>> Erm yeah?
>> Hi!
>Sup?
You've been covertly trained to not dicuss stuff in net forums. Anyone trying to debate will be drowned out by kids posting approx one liner 'comeback' lines. review this thread for an e.g.
From what I've seen, this is closer to the depth in debate, outside your PO training, you can handle. If one of you does manage to break free and read something, post the news here.
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I'm splitting my sides here you dildo, you really haven't looked around this forum at all have you?meemoe_uk wrote:>By the way, what is this thread actually about? I haven't deciphered the title yet.
You won't be able to. It requires digesting the 1st post, I don't see that you've even read it. Your ADHD will prevent this.
Dont' even try. stick with what you've been trained to do by twitter.
e.g.
>>>>>>>> Roflz
>>>>>>> right m8, gr8 lolz
>>>>>> cum on, geez
>>>>> yoyoyoyo
>>>> What?
>>> Erm yeah?
>> Hi!
>Sup?
You've been covertly trained to not dicuss stuff in net forums. Anyone trying to debate will be drowned out by kids posting approx one liner 'comeback' lines. review this thread for an e.g.
From what I've seen, this is closer to the depth in debate, outside your PO training, you can handle. If one of you does manage to break free and read something, post the news here.
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Meemoe - tbh, I didn't read your post because it looks like hard work.
Keep it clear, nice paragraphs and well structured and more people will read your post.
There are some idiots here who like to go around abusing people, but best to ignore them! The admin is cool, he just lets people get on with it - much better than one who goes around censoring everybody.
Keep it clear, nice paragraphs and well structured and more people will read your post.
There are some idiots here who like to go around abusing people, but best to ignore them! The admin is cool, he just lets people get on with it - much better than one who goes around censoring everybody.
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meemoe_uk
Yeah, and your one of the most capable here. If you can't digest it, no-one can.
EatyourVeg can't even read my short replys.
I'll try highlighting it for him.
From what I've seen, this is closer to the depth in debate, outside your PO training, you can handle.
Bible kids have no prob reading and parroting the bible indepth.
EatyourVeg can't even read my short replys.
I'll try highlighting it for him.
From what I've seen, this is closer to the depth in debate, outside your PO training, you can handle.
Bible kids have no prob reading and parroting the bible indepth.
I am one of the long standing members on this forum, so I am very brain-washed and PO trained. I have read books on PO, debated the matter for over half a decade on here. Watched documentaries on PO, changed my outlook on life because of it.....
But your post above Meemoe has really made me rethink everything. You have synthesised in a few paragraphs how I have got it all wrong. Your example of the little oil company has made me realise I have been a fool all these years. That all the people who said oil would run out in 30 years, about 30 years ago, were wrong. That the International Energy Organisations are all wrong, predicting the peak now, or in 10 years or at worst 20 years are all wrong.
Praise be to Meemoe. Thank you. You were/are right. We can all go back to normal now and nobody needs to access this forum again. Bye Meemoe - see you again maybe - thanks.......... bye.....
But your post above Meemoe has really made me rethink everything. You have synthesised in a few paragraphs how I have got it all wrong. Your example of the little oil company has made me realise I have been a fool all these years. That all the people who said oil would run out in 30 years, about 30 years ago, were wrong. That the International Energy Organisations are all wrong, predicting the peak now, or in 10 years or at worst 20 years are all wrong.
Praise be to Meemoe. Thank you. You were/are right. We can all go back to normal now and nobody needs to access this forum again. Bye Meemoe - see you again maybe - thanks.......... bye.....
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meemoe_uk
You were/are right. We can all go back to normal now and nobody needs to access this forum again. Bye Meemoe - see you again maybe - thanks.......... bye.....
That's a bit egocentric isn't it? I didn't come here to save just your sorry ass. There are other poor unfortunate brainwashed kids here besides you. Stick around and help me get the rest out the quagmire of dumbass doom.
That's a bit egocentric isn't it? I didn't come here to save just your sorry ass. There are other poor unfortunate brainwashed kids here besides you. Stick around and help me get the rest out the quagmire of dumbass doom.
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Meemoe, can you explain to me why OPEC, with its avowed aim of keeping oil supply at an affordable level in order to keep the world economy going, is allowing oil prices to rise to a level which is effecting the ability of the developed economies to come out of recession. If OPEC released a bit more oil the price would drop and economic activity could increase leading to greater oil demand and a price increase for the OPEC nations again.
Also, if Saudi Arabia has so much oil, why has King Saud said that they will keep some oil back for their children in the future rather than producing it now? Is he expecting the oil price in the future to be much higher than it is now?
Why, with current very high oil prices, are not countries exploiting the high price, as they have done in the past, by selling as much as they can?
Also, if Saudi Arabia has so much oil, why has King Saud said that they will keep some oil back for their children in the future rather than producing it now? Is he expecting the oil price in the future to be much higher than it is now?
Why, with current very high oil prices, are not countries exploiting the high price, as they have done in the past, by selling as much as they can?
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meemoe_uk
>Meemoe, can you explain to me why OPEC, with its avowed aim of keeping oil supply at an affordable level in order to keep the world economy going, is allowing oil prices to rise to a level which is effecting the ability of the developed economies to come out of recession. If OPEC released a bit more oil the price would drop and economic activity could increase leading to greater oil demand and a price increase for the OPEC nations again.
Sure. But I expect the answers will be unsatisfactory to you.
1st of all, OPEC were allowed to form under anglo-american supervision and is infiltrated by the anglo-americans. OPEC cannot substancially defy the western oil cartel.
This shouldn't be a suprise, the anglo-americans had conquered the world completely by WW2. Just because their power is less overt now doesn't mean it's at all diminished.
No doubt many well meaning people over the years in OPEC have strived for positive ecomic influence (like avowing to keep oil affordable to all ), but when it really counts, they won't be allowed to upset anglo-american plans.
2nd, you seem to think oil prices are set by market supply and demand. They aren't. They are set by the cartel. This point has been stressed by several different viewpoints, opposed on many fronts, but are united in this respect. This includes PO leader matt simmons in his lectures and radio interviews, although he only goes as far at to say - 'the supply and demand mechanism for governing prices is broken' sorta blaming 'modern stock market anarchy', rather than the cartel.
With these two factors, OPEC are pretty restricted on releasing more oil against the will of the cartel, and then it wouldn't affect prices much assuming the oil could be traded freely on the world markets.
Also, if Saudi Arabia has so much oil, why has King Saud said that they will keep some oil back for their children in the future rather than producing it now? Is he expecting the oil price in the future to be much higher than it is now?
Well I haven't looked into this specifically. If we assume he's not just fronting one of the cartels policys, it just seem like prudence. I expect the king is getting everything he wants for his family now.
Why, with current very high oil prices, are not countries exploiting the high price, as they have done in the past, by selling as much as they can?
They are, as much as the cartel allows. What makes you think they aren't?
Sure. But I expect the answers will be unsatisfactory to you.
1st of all, OPEC were allowed to form under anglo-american supervision and is infiltrated by the anglo-americans. OPEC cannot substancially defy the western oil cartel.
This shouldn't be a suprise, the anglo-americans had conquered the world completely by WW2. Just because their power is less overt now doesn't mean it's at all diminished.
No doubt many well meaning people over the years in OPEC have strived for positive ecomic influence (like avowing to keep oil affordable to all ), but when it really counts, they won't be allowed to upset anglo-american plans.
2nd, you seem to think oil prices are set by market supply and demand. They aren't. They are set by the cartel. This point has been stressed by several different viewpoints, opposed on many fronts, but are united in this respect. This includes PO leader matt simmons in his lectures and radio interviews, although he only goes as far at to say - 'the supply and demand mechanism for governing prices is broken' sorta blaming 'modern stock market anarchy', rather than the cartel.
With these two factors, OPEC are pretty restricted on releasing more oil against the will of the cartel, and then it wouldn't affect prices much assuming the oil could be traded freely on the world markets.
Also, if Saudi Arabia has so much oil, why has King Saud said that they will keep some oil back for their children in the future rather than producing it now? Is he expecting the oil price in the future to be much higher than it is now?
Well I haven't looked into this specifically. If we assume he's not just fronting one of the cartels policys, it just seem like prudence. I expect the king is getting everything he wants for his family now.
Why, with current very high oil prices, are not countries exploiting the high price, as they have done in the past, by selling as much as they can?
They are, as much as the cartel allows. What makes you think they aren't?
Now I'm new here and haven't really posted before. But it makes no sense to me that governments in the US and UK are happy for oil prices to be kept artificially high if OPEC could flood the market with more supply and bring the price down. This would obviously ease the pressure and costs on transport, food production and industry as a whole, creating jobs and wealth. Surely anyone can understand the logic there!
And if the middle eastern oil producing states do have enough oil reserves, then why are they diversifying so much i.e Dubai with tourism and into banking. And BP signing a deal in Russia to explore in the Artic for oil, why when there is so much readily available supply for the next 30 years? China doing deals securing supply with Saudi Arabia!
Think about the bigger picture!!
And if the middle eastern oil producing states do have enough oil reserves, then why are they diversifying so much i.e Dubai with tourism and into banking. And BP signing a deal in Russia to explore in the Artic for oil, why when there is so much readily available supply for the next 30 years? China doing deals securing supply with Saudi Arabia!
Think about the bigger picture!!
