Tesco's and the constant maths test

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 03 Jan 2009, 11:03

Not good for customer choice if other shops go out of business.

Consumer choic is the reason they go out of business.
When people have the choice of Tesco and X, they choose Tesco.

Not good for the owners and employees trying to make a living in smaller shops.

Tractors were bad for ox teams
Cheap electric cars will be bad for petrol salesmen.
Toyota is bad for GM

But isn't that the point? If the supermarket(s) weren't there you would still have local Butchers and Bakers, rather than Hairdressers and estate agents.

True, but I would still have a supermarket just as close, offering a wider range at better orices.[/quote]

Andy_K · Post by **Andy_K** » 05 Jan 2009, 11:30

On price rises:

After a hike, prices go down far more slowly than they went up, because the only reason prices go down in the first place is due to competition. When everyone is selling at higher prices, there's no need to cut them by much. Price lowering is an iterative process which takes months (or years) to reach the rock-bottom levels.

Secondly, many suppliers are probably still contracted to higher prices, as they'll work on X month contracts, many of which are very likely to have been based on high oil prices.

zigspider · Post by **zigspider** » 06 Jan 2009, 02:47

DominicJ wrote:
Not good for customer choice if other shops go out of business.
Consumer choic is the reason they go out of business.
When people have the choice of Tesco and X, they choose Tesco.

Not good for the owners and employees trying to make a living in smaller shops.
Tractors were bad for ox teams
Cheap electric cars will be bad for petrol salesmen.
Toyota is bad for GM

But isn't that the point? If the supermarket(s) weren't there you would still have local Butchers and Bakers, rather than Hairdressers and estate agents.
True, but I would still have a supermarket just as close, offering a wider range at better orices.

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OK, so when PO hits and Tesco can no longer survive with the JIT system, where are you going to get your food?

You sound as if you have no interest in the concept of eating/sourcing locally, just where you can buy cheapest.

Jerry

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 06 Jan 2009, 08:53

Why cant Tesco survive PO?
It might need to change, it absolutly will need to change, but I doubt theres many more food miles involved with new zealand lamb from a butcher and new zealand lamb from a Tesco.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 06 Jan 2009, 11:24

My butcher gets his lamb, beef and pork from his parent's farm about ten miles away. But Tesco don't sell meat of that quality.

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 06 Jan 2009, 11:40

Good for you, mine sells New Zealand Lamb and Irish beef, just like my local Tesco.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 06 Jan 2009, 16:42

DominicJ wrote:Good for you, mine sells New Zealand Lamb and Irish beef, just like my local Tesco.

Hmmm, sounds like you will have real problems getting meat in the future. Unless you change where you shop!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 06 Jan 2009, 19:19

Actually, to defend Dom's butcher (but not Tesco of course) New Zealand lamb is produced rather efficiently since it comes from a land where the grass grows 10 or 11 months a year. It's carbon footprint, even after the journey, may be lower than some British lamb. Complicated stuff, life.

IanG · Post by **IanG** » 08 Jan 2009, 08:02

Sainsburys results up for last 3 months to best ever

I'm not surprised, I think them & tescos have been hiking prices over the last few months. I not sure people have wanted to spend 4.5% more, its just that theres a phoney price war going on.

I've seen these labels in tescos that show the sainsbury's / asda price.
Bizzarely they appear after they've hiked something up by 20%/25%.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Jan 2009, 08:33

Somebody told me that Tesco reduced the price of Bacardi. The cost of the price offer was born entirely by the producer, not Tesco. So? We all know that's the may the offers work. But in this case all the advertising material was produced and the campaign put into place before the producer was told.

IanG · Post by **IanG** » 13 Jan 2009, 10:46

Tesco sales up 3.5%

Yup, as I thought, the evil empire rolls on......

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 13 Jan 2009, 13:06

Somebody told me that Tesco reduced the price of Bacardi. The cost of the price offer was born entirely by the producer, not Tesco. So? We all know that's the may the offers work. But in this case all the advertising material was produced and the campaign put into place before the producer was told.

But theres nothing to stop Bacardi refusing to sell to Tesco.
They arent exactly small fry, having revenue of $5.5+ PA and have taken on the WTO, and Castro.

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Just had a bit of a look and if they stopped selling to Tesco, Tesco would have a big gap in its alcohol aisle.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 13 Jan 2009, 14:05

Farm shop takes on Tesco!

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 13 Jan 2009, 14:35

DominicJ wrote:But theres nothing to stop Bacardi refusing to sell to Tesco.

No! That's just the point. Even Bacardi dares not take on Tesco.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 13 Jan 2009, 14:39

RenewableCandy wrote:Farm shop takes on Tesco!

Good for Pablo Dimoglou. Actually, iot's not so hard to undercut Tesco on a large range of foods. We're fighting a big supermarket proposal here in Louth and working on a project to show that Tesco/Sinsbury/Asda/Morrisons are not as cheap as they would have folk believe.

http://www.keeplouthspecial.org.uk/