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Lower right, you bunch of communists :p
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clv101 wrote:If there?s one thing that?s change under the Brown government it?s that everything is "right". You can?t listen to a minister talking for more than a minute these days without them saying they are doing the "right" thing, making the "right" decision etc. It?s pathetic. Saying something is "right" doesn?t make it so.

Anyone else noticed this?
Nope. Fortunately have no TV, and have been too busy listening to Barack O saying 'Change' every minute on the web.

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(now evident from his cabinet selection that there isnt going to be all that much. More like Clinton take 3)
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skeptik wrote:
clv101 wrote:If there?s one thing that?s change under the Brown government it?s that everything is "right". You can?t listen to a minister talking for more than a minute these days without them saying they are doing the "right" thing, making the "right" decision etc. It?s pathetic. Saying something is "right" doesn?t make it so.

Anyone else noticed this?
Nope. Fortunately have no TV, and have been too busy listening to Barack O saying 'Change' every minute on the web.

:wink:

(now evident from his cabinet selection that there isnt going to be all that much. More like Clinton take 3)
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Of course it's "right" that "lessons are (never) learned" so as to "inform" the "enquiry" while repeating dogmatically some mantra which has absolutely nothing to do with any question asked!!!

Give me strength! :roll:

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Well It's better than doing the wrong thing. I always thought having an ethical foreign policy was quite smart. Pity they dropped that idea.
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biffvernon wrote:Well It's better than doing the wrong thing. I always thought having an ethical foreign policy was quite smart. Pity they dropped that idea.
Second that. It would have saved us a bloody fortune :twisted: [/yorkshirewoman]
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biffvernon wrote:Well It's better than doing the wrong thing. I always thought having an ethical foreign policy was quite smart. Pity they dropped that idea.
Dropped it? Hah! Apart from mouthing the words I don't think Noo Labur ever picked it up in the first place.

'ethical foreign policy' was that funny little red bearded Scotsman with an incomprehensible accent who looked like a leprechaun... bonked his secretary and left his wife. Forgotten his name! Must be Alzheimers.
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Robin Cook? The guy who resigned from the cabinet over Iraq.
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emordnilap wrote:
WolfattheDoor wrote:
Blue Peter wrote:And from a party of the left too! :wink:


Peter.
That's traditionally the left. Have a look at:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright
Has anyone here done the test?

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59


The site sort of illustrates why I detest most politics.
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dominicj, how do you fare with that test?
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skeptik wrote:'ethical foreign policy' was that funny little red bearded Scotsman with an incomprehensible accent who looked like a leprechaun... bonked his secretary and left his wife. Forgotten his name! Must be Alzheimers.
I think Robin Cook has been the only cabinet minister I have actually spoken to - a very long time ago - and he rather impressed me so I was pleased when he bacame Foreign Secretary and saddened when he resigned. A man of sound ideas and integrity.
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Vortex
I sit on Friedman, apparently supporting the death penelty is authoritarian.
The compass is good as a guide, but it falls into the "these are what libertarians believe trap".
The point is not what I believe, its the extent to which I believe the state should enforce my views.
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clv101 wrote:If there's one thing that's change under the Brown government it's that everything is "right". You can't listen to a minister talking for more than a minute these days without them saying they are doing the "right" thing, making the "right" decision etc. It's pathetic. Saying something is "right" doesn't make it so.

Anyone else noticed this?


Seems it works both ways:
Gordon Brown says unofficial strikes against the use of foreign workers are "not the right thing to do" and "not defensible".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7863316.stm
Today we get "not the right thing".
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clv101 wrote: Seems it works both ways:
Gordon Brown says unofficial strikes against the use of foreign workers are "not the right thing to do" and "not defensible".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7863316.stm
Today we get "not the right thing".
I'm sure he'd feel suitably aggrieved if a foreigner took his job :D
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RenewableCandy wrote:I'm sure he'd feel suitably aggrieved if a foreigner took his job :D
What, you mean like an Englishman taking on the job because it's based in England :lol:
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