What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?
DominicJ wrote:GD
Feel free to provide the numbers to back up your claim that Scotland subsidises England. Arc of prosperity and all that
I'm saying there's two sides to every coin. Are you claiming to have never benefited from cheap North Sea oil or gas?
Yes - the North Sea.
Irrespective of who has been getting it out, I reckon it has been an enormous bonanza for the whole of the U.K. I suppose one could argue that we all may not be in this situation if it had never existed in the first place, but still, we all made darn good money from it in the past. If Scotland had been independant, the picture today would be very different.
regarding the language and only old codgers speaking it, that is crap. nearly everyone under 19 has learnt welsh and can speak it, maybe not fluently but have a good understanding. its a fast growing subject in wales even in the south.
welshgreen wrote:regarding the language and only old codgers speaking it, that is crap. nearly everyone under 19 has learnt welsh and can speak it, maybe not fluently but have a good understanding. its a fast growing subject in wales even in the south.
I suggest you re-read my post. Maybe you have problems with it because it's in English?
I suspect that the resurgence of the Welsh language can be traced back to ENGLISH trendy-lefties moving to Wales and getting very 'involved' with their new homeland.
i wouldnt say it was all down to them, but with things like the senedd the welsh are feeling more proud, adults are making an effort to learn and use the language, god knows there is enough bloody tv adverts promoting bilingualism. welsh has to have as much exposure as english, in schools the language is a major part of the curriculum.
Vortex wrote:I suspect that the resurgence of the Welsh language can be traced back to ENGLISH trendy-lefties moving to Wales and getting very 'involved' with their new homeland.
More Welsh than the Welsh themselves.
It was made compulsory at GCSE level many years ago. Not sure if it was English touchy-feely types that made the decision, though.
Vortex wrote:I suspect that the resurgence of the Welsh language can be traced back to ENGLISH trendy-lefties moving to Wales and getting very 'involved' with their new homeland.
More Welsh than the Welsh themselves.
Haha, that'll be me soon.
Strange how the language thing gets everyone riled up. Happened last time too. That time it was an English fellow living in Wales who got upset I suggested it might be respectful to learn Welsh if you're living in Wales. Can't remember who it was though.
And whilst cruising petrolnutters.com I came across this in between a discussion of the Oil Depletion Protocol and Transition Towns:
A family of England supporters head out shopping, for Barbours, in Richmond, one Saturday before Christmas.
While in a sport shop, the son picks up a Welsh rugby shirt and says to his sister,
'I've decided I'm going to be a Welsh supporter and I'd
like this shirt for my Christmas present!'
The sister is outraged at this; promptly whacks him round the head and says,
'Go talk to mum.'
Off goes the little lad, with Welsh shirt in hand and finds his mother.
'Mum'
'Yes, son?'
'I've decided I'm going to be a Welsh supporter and I'd like this shirt for my Christmas present.'
The mother is outraged at this; promptly whacks him round the head and says,
'Go talk to your father.'
Off he goes with the Welsh shirt in hand and finds his father.
'Dad.'
'Yes, son?'
'I've given this a lot of thought; I've watched the style of rugby they play and I've decided I'm going to be a Welsh rugby supporter and I would like this Welsh shirt for my Christmas present.'
The father is outraged at this; promptly whacks his son round the headand says:
'No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT!'
About half an hour later, they are all back in the car heading home.
The father turns to the son and says:
'Son, I hope you've learned an
important lesson today?'
The son turns to his father and says:
'Yes, Father, I have'.
Father says:
'Good son, and what is it?'
The son replies:
'I've only been a Welsh supporter for an hour and I
already hate you English bas***ds!
jokes aside tho, all this stuff has happened in the past. we need to be looking towards the future. when people are struggling do you honestly think people will care what language you speak? we need to work with each other!
