Full StoryThe Baltic Dry Index measuring rates for coal, iron ore, and grains, and other dry goods plummeted below 1000 yesterday, down 92pc since peaking in June.
The daily rental rates for Capesize big ships have dropped $234,000 to $7,340 in weeks, leaving operators stuck with heavy losses on long leases. Empty ships are now crowding Singapore and other global ports.
"It is extremely serious, " said Jeremy Penn, president of the Baltic Exchange. "Freight rates have never fallen this steeply before. It is telling us that world trade in raw materials has slowed dramatically. Shippers are having genuine difficulty obtaining letters of credit from banks," he said.
Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
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Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
If you look at it on a graph, it is one of the scariest things I have seen in a good while.....
http://www.safehaven.com/article-11696.htm
In June of this year - it was 11,500 - it is now less than 1000!! Most of that drop took place between September and mid October - and it's getting steeper.
Hasn't yet affected offical figures - pop goes the weasel.
I suggest making the most of the sales, while there are still things to buy....
Times don't get much more "interesting" than this.
http://www.safehaven.com/article-11696.htm
In June of this year - it was 11,500 - it is now less than 1000!! Most of that drop took place between September and mid October - and it's getting steeper.
Hasn't yet affected offical figures - pop goes the weasel.
I suggest making the most of the sales, while there are still things to buy....
Times don't get much more "interesting" than this.
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If shippers can't access credit, it is perhaps likely that the industries using their cargoes
will be similarly hamstrung.
In which case the shortages will not be of raw materials so much as of essential finished goods,
such as nails, cloth, leather, imported fodder, fertilizer and food.
But this leads into tendentious reasoning over whether a shortage exists
when people are unable to pay the sufficient price for an item.
Regards,
Billhook
will be similarly hamstrung.
In which case the shortages will not be of raw materials so much as of essential finished goods,
such as nails, cloth, leather, imported fodder, fertilizer and food.
But this leads into tendentious reasoning over whether a shortage exists
when people are unable to pay the sufficient price for an item.
Regards,
Billhook
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Re: Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
Looks like the market has capesized, then.mikepepler wrote:Full StoryThe Baltic Dry Index measuring rates for coal, iron ore, and grains, and other dry goods plummeted below 1000 yesterday, down 92pc since peaking in June.
The daily rental rates for Capesize big ships have dropped $234,000 to $7,340 in weeks, leaving operators stuck with heavy losses on long leases. Empty ships are now crowding Singapore and other global ports.
"It is extremely serious, " said Jeremy Penn, president of the Baltic Exchange. "Freight rates have never fallen this steeply before. It is telling us that world trade in raw materials has slowed dramatically. Shippers are having genuine difficulty obtaining letters of credit from banks," he said.
Alright, alright, it was obvious, I know.
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Re: Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
Point of info. "Capesize" are so called because they're too big to fit through the Suez and Panama canals. they have to take routes which round Cape Horn or the Cape of Good Hope. They're the largest size of bulk cargo carriers and these days mostly carry iron ore on the Brazil and Australia to China routes. This says that demand from Chinese steelmakers is falling - about as basic an indicator that there is that the global economy is slowing down.emordnilap wrote:
Looks like the market has capesized, then.
Alright, alright, it was obvious, I know.
... My dad used to work as a dry cargo shipbroker on the Baltic Exchange for H.Clarkson & Son... hmm. not looking too good.
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Gosh I bet you're a hoot at parties.skeptik wrote:Point of info. "Capesize" are so called because they're too big to fit through the Suez and Panama canals. they have to take routes which round Cape Horn or the Cape of Good Hope. They're the largest size of bulk cargo carriers and these days mostly carry iron ore on the Brazil and Australia to China routes. This says that demand from Chinese steelmakers is falling - about as basic an indicator that there is that the global economy is slowing down.emordnilap wrote:
Looks like the market has capesized, then.
Alright, alright, it was obvious, I know.
... My dad used to work as a dry cargo shipbroker on the Baltic Exchange for H.Clarkson & Son...
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Re: Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
Have big bag of party poppers, can and do travel. Thought I don't usually bother to bring them to discussions about dry cargo...emordnilap wrote: Gosh I bet you're a hoot at parties.
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Re: Investors shun Greek debt as shipping crisis deepens
The chap who wrote Black Swan says we should all go to more parties...I'm off to a Hallowe'en one tonight. We may (or may not) talk about international shipping!skeptik wrote:Have big bag of party poppers, can and do travel. Thought I don't usually bother to bring them to discussions about dry cargo...emordnilap wrote: Gosh I bet you're a hoot at parties.