OT: Google Chrome

MacG · Post by **MacG** » 03 Sep 2008, 09:00

Been running it since yesterday. Very impressed! See no reasons to change back to Firefox yet.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 03 Sep 2008, 09:12

Just tried it ... VERY fast!

However ... the security options etc are still very limited.

Also, with Firefox you get can all sorts of useful add-ons.

PowerSwitchJames · Post by **PowerSwitchJames** » 03 Sep 2008, 09:38

I've been trying it this morning and I simply cannot believe how fast it is. I strongly recommend trying it. This forum loads up instantly on Chrome.

SunnyJim · Post by **SunnyJim** » 03 Sep 2008, 10:11

I've decided I don't like the way it looks or the way it renders buttons. Often you can't read font in the buttons correctly, and when typeing into a text box you sometimes loose visibility of what you've typed.

If some of this gets ironed out it might be OK. Did anyone read the T&C's? What are google doing with your browsing data?

landyowner · Post by **landyowner** » 03 Sep 2008, 10:45

SunnyJim wrote:Did anyone read the T&C's? What are google doing with your browsing data?

I think this is the important bit from it. It basically says that while you still own the posts you submit while using chrome, google has the right to use them.

Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.
11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.
11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

MacG · Post by **MacG** » 03 Sep 2008, 11:08

landyowner wrote:
SunnyJim wrote:Did anyone read the T&C's? What are google doing with your browsing data?
I think this is the important bit from it. It basically says that while you still own the posts you submit while using chrome, google has the right to use them.

Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.
11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.
11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

Darn, there was my reason to change! Well, better use Chrome for PeakOil posts then - will give those posts a slightly better chance to get propagated...

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 03 Sep 2008, 11:53

I will not use Chrome because of the highlighted Ts & Cs - not acceptable.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 03 Sep 2008, 12:23

Is this materially different to what happens anyway?

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 03 Sep 2008, 12:44

This is from a T&C for Safari, from Apple:

Consent to Use of Data. You agree that Apple and its subsidiaries may collect and use technical and related information, including but not limited to technical information about your computer, system and application software, and peripherals, that is gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, product support and other services to you (if any) related to the Apple Software, and to verify compliance with the terms of this License. Apple may use this information, as long as it is in a form that does not personally identify you, to improve our products or to provide services or technologies to you.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 03 Sep 2008, 13:04

I doubt that you can avoid this sort of agreement.

I bet that most have us have signed away our souls by clicking YES to one of those damned Terms.

SunnyJim · Post by **SunnyJim** » 03 Sep 2008, 13:12

Interesting discussion on what the T&C's mean here.

I suspect that google want to use the data posted in their search and URL bar to better target adverts.

I'm not going to use it. Those T's&C's are too wide open for my liking.

rushdy · Post by **rushdy** » 03 Sep 2008, 13:17

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/priv ... ox-en.html

I won't be using it either. Then again, I don't use any of these online services like Google Docs, Facebook, and so on. I'll keep my own data on my own system running Free Software thanks

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 03 Sep 2008, 13:20

So does Chrome have some sort of back channel reporting to a Google server?

It's Open Source code, so I suppose a version WITHOUT any snooping stuff could be built.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 03 Sep 2008, 13:39

Don't like those T & C's either. I think I'll stay with Firefox using Scroogle Scraper for searches and keep some privacy. The cartoons and comments on the home page are funny too, one even mentions PO.

RogerCO · Post by **RogerCO** » 03 Sep 2008, 13:49

For the benefit of those who don't have the faintest idea what you are on about with all this talk of metal plated search engines could someone please explain what it is and where you got it from. Is there any medicine you can take for it or should you just go and lie down in a darkened room if you are affected.

I've seen the word chrome used in strange ways elsewhere and never understood what it is about - AFAIK it is to do with electroplating chromium onto another metal to give a shiny surface which eventually gets spots of rust that you scrub off with some chrome cleaner.

What has this to do with google or firefox ?