Solar Thermal on West Facing Roof???

What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?

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monster
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Our first gas bill with solar

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One more update.

We have now had our solar thermal panel for 4 and a half months.

Our current gas bill (not estimated) equates more or less to that four and a half months (give or take a day) - and was £14.13 - and we cook by gas. :D
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Is anyone prepared to name names re their solar (water) systems? I am being bombarded with 'offers' on a weekly basis and now the new windows and woodburner are in , solar is next on my list (once I've saved up). I am not a techie so not looking for anything complicated - just a simple, effective, Putin-free system of warming modest amounts of water.
Dear Vladimir, I have changed my name because Panicky Mum reflected neither my current state of mind nor my Russian roots. I think that you're doing a great job and look forward to enjoying an excellent supply of gas for some time yet. All the best!
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Pani Kova wrote:Is anyone prepared to name names re their solar (water) systems? I am being bombarded with 'offers' on a weekly basis
When I was in the industry, and when I had a house and got junk mail, the bombardment was from companies that I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. Without generalising too much, they tend to be the ones that employ pushy salesmen, who probably had the same training as dodgy double glazing salesmen. Even after knocking a couple of thousand off the price "because they're working in the area" they will probably still be very expensive. I think they can do a good job of installing, but they can also do a bad one.

From my experience, the smaller local installers are the ones that charge the sensible prices. I costed all the jobs we did, and we should probably have charged more to avoid the sleepless nights that dealing with cashflow problems caused. I wouldn't have slept well with the guilt of ripping off customers if we'd charged as much as the companies I mentioned above though.

Make sure that whoever you talk to is a member of the Solar Trade Association, get 3 quotes if you can, ask for references and don't deal with anyone who won't leave until you've signed a contract.

I can't recommend any systems or installers as I'm out of touch with what's available now.
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Helpful advice. Thanks John!
Dear Vladimir, I have changed my name because Panicky Mum reflected neither my current state of mind nor my Russian roots. I think that you're doing a great job and look forward to enjoying an excellent supply of gas for some time yet. All the best!
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PK, try www.navitron.org.uk and use one of their trained installers. They've got a forum with them on, or you can post for one who works in your area. It'll be much cheaper and the Navitron evacuated tube system uses a sealed double walled glass tube, like the old Thermos flask, which won't lose its vacuum.
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I put in a Navitron system myself last summer 20 tubes, then expanded it to 40 in August. We have 172 ltr tank and 3 in the house, pretty much self sufficient in the summer unless it is very overcast or we use a lot of water. It was very satisfying to see our gas consumption plummet.

Also satisfying was the argument I had with Scottish Power who were trying to put our direct debit up. Their computer system's algorithm cannot factor a solar panel in. So I had the 'computer says no' conversation with them, whilst I was trying to explain that my consumption will fall faster in Spring than their predictions and rise slower as we go into winter.
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