Emergency family meetings?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 11 Jun 2008, 11:48

Hmmm... my family seem pretty comprehensively peak aware. Are there any other regular PS posters related to each other?

eatyourveg · Post by **eatyourveg** » 11 Jun 2008, 12:29

adam2 wrote:My mother and my sister are gradually becoming more peak oil aware, I have stressed the liklehood of short term disruptions to food and fuel supplies as much as longer term problems.

Since I dont live with mother and sister, I would probably not be with them at least initialy in the event of problems.
I have therefore prepared a book of information that would be useful in an emergency. The contents include
How to replace fuses, reset MCBs, how to check if power is present at the meter.
A brief description of how the UPS works, what it supplies, and the expected battery life.
How to turn off the water to part or all of the house.
How to render drinkable water from the garden water butts, and the location of the required supplies.
A reminder that petrol is stored in red painted jerry cans, and that parrafin is in smaller plastic containers, and that under no circumstances should petrol be used in oil lamps etc.
How to safely use oil lamps, and the location of spare wicks and glasses
How to light tilley lamps, and how to replace the vapouriser or the mantle, and the location of spares.
A reminder in case of long term power failure, to use up frozen food ASAP before UPS battery runs down.
Instruction books for geiger counters, UPS, tilley lamps, water filter, two way radios.
The location of reserve supplies, if not obvious.
Useful telephone numbers.

Is there a Millwall game on then?

Nicko · Post by **Nicko** » 11 Jun 2008, 13:34

biffvernon wrote:Hmmm... my family seem pretty comprehensively peak aware.

My direct family is(wife ,kids, dog etc) but it is the aunts and uncles, cousins and nephews who struggle with the concept.

Post by **mikepepler** » 12 Jun 2008, 07:52

Mine are all aware in varying degrees, but haven't grasped the seriousness of the situation, judging by some of the decisions they are still making...

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 12 Jun 2008, 08:24

Nicko wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Hmmm... my family seem pretty comprehensively peak aware.
My direct family is(wife ,kids, dog etc) but it is the aunts and uncles, cousins and nephews who struggle with the concept.

Interested to hear the dogs take on it?

My family all know about it from me. My mum just constantly says, "you predicted that", or "just like you predicted"...... becoming boring.... god love her.

I am not sure any of them buy into how serious the situation is going to become..... but they are taking my advice about getting rid of any shares and doing some basic preps.

21st_century_caveman · Post by **21st_century_caveman** » 12 Jun 2008, 09:17

snow hope wrote: My mum just constantly says, "you predicted that", or "just like you predicted"

I get that from my mum too, she even asks me what i expect to happen, like i have some kind of magic crystal ball.
That said my folks are in a pretty good position, no debts, live in a nice rural location, have an allotment and big garden etc. I even took my mum to the unleashing of the Totnes Transition initiative a few years back but i still wonder just how much they get it, especially when they are about to spend some spare cash on a new bathroom instead of more useful preps.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 12 Jun 2008, 09:25

Interested to hear the dogs take on it.

"Now listen up humans. This Peak Oil business is no joke. You need to prepare. When central heating is a dim memory I'll be nice and warm in this survival pod. You all need to make similar preparations."

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 12 Jun 2008, 12:58

snow hope wrote:Interested to hear the dogs take on it?

I've just asked Charlie for his view. He looked mystified about what I was on about, and went outside to lie in the sun. Don't think he gets it!

Nicko · Post by **Nicko** » 12 Jun 2008, 13:59

Poppy on the other hand doesn't even own a car, uses a composting toilet,
has just one regenerating coat, gets by without money, drinks from puddles, and eats chicken poo and baby rats.
If society completely breaks down she will be fine.

Adam1 · Post by **Adam1** » 13 Jun 2008, 14:17

JohnB wrote:
snow hope wrote:Interested to hear the dogs take on it?
I've just asked Charlie for his view. He looked mystified about what I was on about, and went outside to lie in the sun. Don't think he gets it!

About as an aware a response as most humans then.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 14 Jun 2008, 16:45

Adam1 wrote:About as an aware a response as most humans then.

But, ultimately I have control over his life (although he wouldn't agree!), and I can impose solutions on him whether he gets it or not. It's like living in an authoritarian regime run by a caring dictator. He didn't choose his current lifestyle, I imposed it on him

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Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 14 Jun 2008, 16:54

The dog-human relationship is essentially symbiotic.

Dogs have evolved to be with humans - or is it the other way around?

Peak Oil is as much a problem for dogs as it is for us!

The Singing Dogs Of New Guinea are a halfway house between wild dogs and 'modern' dogs - http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2004 ... 5-dog.html

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 14 Jun 2008, 20:05

JohnB wrote:
Adam1 wrote:About as an aware a response as most humans then.
But, ultimately I have control over his life (although he wouldn't agree!), and I can impose solutions on him whether he gets it or not. It's like living in an authoritarian regime run by a caring dictator. He didn't choose his current lifestyle, I imposed it on him .

Yes but PO imposes itself on you, and so necessarily him too. You can only choose how you react to PO, you can't remove it from your life altogether.

So even though you are his 'master', you are still brothers in suffering!