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If there?s one thing that?s change under the Brown government it?s that everything is "right". You can?t listen to a minister talking for more than a minute these days without them saying they are doing the "right" thing, making the "right" decision etc. It?s pathetic. Saying something is "right" doesn?t make it so.

Anyone else noticed this?
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And from a party of the left too! :wink:


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Blue Peter wrote:And from a party of the left too! :wink:


Peter.
That's traditionally the left. Have a look at:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright
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WolfattheDoor wrote:
Blue Peter wrote:And from a party of the left too! :wink:


Peter.
That's traditionally the left. Have a look at:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright
Has anyone here done the test?

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59


The site sort of illustrates why I detest most politics.
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I always end up around about where the Greens are. And, with our crappy voting system, voting for a small party is usually a waste of time.

You could describe voting as a good walk wasted.
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WolfattheDoor wrote:I always end up around about where the Greens are. And, with our crappy voting system, voting for a small party is usually a waste of time.

You could describe voting as a good walk wasted.
Yeah. If it did any good, they'd have banned it.
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The corporal wrote
You could describe voting as a good walk wasted.

Precisly sir (salute)
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emordnilap wrote:
WolfattheDoor wrote:
Blue Peter wrote:And from a party of the left too! :wink:


Peter.
That's traditionally the left. Have a look at:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright
Has anyone here done the test?

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59


The site sort of illustrates why I detest most politics.


Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

Whatever that means.
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emordnilap wrote: Has anyone here done the test?

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59
Golly, I'm dull:

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13
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emordnilap wrote:
WolfattheDoor wrote:
Blue Peter wrote:And from a party of the left too! :wink:


Peter.
That's traditionally the left. Have a look at:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright
Has anyone here done the test?

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59


The site sort of illustrates why I detest most politics.
It maybe also explains why I tick all the 'other' or 'none' boxes in multiple choice questionnaires.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
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Post by fifthcolumn »

emordnilap wrote:done the test?

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59


The site sort of illustrates why I detest most politics.
Here's mine:

Economic Left/Right: 5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Ha that's hilarious. Apparently I'm closest to a "liberal democrat" according to this graph.

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Ooops...hijacked the thread.
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Post by Adam1 »

Mine is:

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

If I'd been asked to guess, I would have put myself here:

Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

I didn't really see myself in the same camp as Gandhi, even though I admire him greatly.
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Post by Adam1 »

Going back to Chris's original point. Yes, our government's justification seems to be I'm right because I say I'm right - the kind of argument my four year old godson would use when pressed.
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Post by Neily at the peak »

I'm somewhat surprisingly between Nelson Nandela and The Dalai Lama, I was expecting to be nearer to the top right of the graph. But that is only today it will be interesting to do it again another day. Anyway today it is the "Right" place for me and I am happy with that. It would be interesting to go back to my political compass in January 2005 before peak oil infiltrated my being.

Neil
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