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SunnyJim wrote:At that rate we can expect the following;

Year Price
2008 117.58
2009 212.8198
2010 385.203838
2011 697.2189468
2012 1261.966294
2013 2284.158992
2014 4134.327775
2015 7483.133272
2016 13544.47122
2017 24515.49291
2018 44373.04217
2019 80315.20633
2020 145370.5235
2021 263120.6475
2022 476248.3719


Clearly something has to give soon.... 2012, the year oil hit $1000 per barrel????
Ah yes but is the rate of change increasing exponentially?

In which case the price might actually go up much faster but also reach a 'demand destruction ceiling' much quicker too.
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Post by SunnyJim »

Andy Hunt wrote:
SunnyJim wrote:At that rate we can expect the following;

Year Price
2008 117.58
2009 212.8198
2010 385.203838
2011 697.2189468
2012 1261.966294
2013 2284.158992
2014 4134.327775
2015 7483.133272
2016 13544.47122
2017 24515.49291
2018 44373.04217
2019 80315.20633
2020 145370.5235
2021 263120.6475
2022 476248.3719


Clearly something has to give soon.... 2012, the year oil hit $1000 per barrel????
Ah yes but is the rate of change increasing exponentially?

In which case the price might actually go up much faster but also reach a 'demand destruction ceiling' much quicker too.

:shock: :shock: :shock: Now there's a thought. :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Post by PS_RalphW »

West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil $/barrel 117.97 4.31 3.8

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/fds/ ... efault.stm

What price is the BBC quoting? It always seems to be at variance with all other figures I see.
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New high 118.05. May contract expires today.
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You beat me to it Tess, I was about to post that!

I wonder if we'll hit $120 by the end of the month?

If we can clear about $123 by early May, then we'll be up 100% on the year before....
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Who uses Tapis? What's so special about it reaching such highs ($124 at the moment)?
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emordnilap wrote:Who uses Tapis? What's so special about it reaching such highs ($124 at the moment)?
Fuel for flying carpets??
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RenewableCandy wrote:
emordnilap wrote:Who uses Tapis? What's so special about it reaching such highs ($124 at the moment)?
Fuel for flying carpets??
:lol: Maybe it's the carpet tacks?
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RalphW wrote:West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil $/barrel 117.97 4.31 3.8

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/fds/ ... efault.stm

What price is the BBC quoting? It always seems to be at variance with all other figures I see.
AFAIK the oil prices on the BBC news website are only updated once a day, in the late afternoon.
Sometimes they get it wrong, posting a decline instead of an increase, or swapping over the Brent price and the West Texas price, or even posting a price of $00-00!
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emordnilap wrote:Who uses Tapis? What's so special about it reaching such highs ($124 at the moment)?
I believe that the more expensive crude oils are lighter, that is easier to handle/more fluid, and when refined such oil produces a larger % of the desirable light fractions (petrol, jet fuel, diesel) and a smaller % of the less valuable heavy products such as heavy furnace oil, residual oil and bitumen.
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I see. Thanks for that.

Another question: is oil really in barrels? If so, are they plastic, metal or what? And are they re-used?
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emordnilap wrote:I see. Thanks for that.

Another question: is oil really in barrels? If so, are they plastic, metal or what? And are they re-used?
Pretty much always transported by pipe or in big storage tanks in tankers these days. Historically though, barrels were much used.

http://www.oil150.com/essays/2007/08/th ... el-history
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This is an oil barrel found on a North Sea beach.

When nature created oil, she also created metal accretions around the deposits, with a distinctive barrel-like shape. The oil drilling rigs lift the barrel-shaped oil filled packages to the surface. Obviously this one 'escaped'.

Clearly the oil industry would have preferred to find large 'pools' of 'unpackaged' oil in the depths - but at least these metal wrapped globules are easy to transport.
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Now you are scraping the...stop!
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Post by goslow »

How reliable is the 1 year forecast, historically? Now over ?150.
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