What's on your PO shopping list?!

hatchelt · Post by **hatchelt** » 20 Sep 2005, 10:40

I'm also adding the wonder washer to my list:

http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=W ... &scoring=p

fishertrop · Post by **fishertrop** » 20 Sep 2005, 15:28

ewt wrote:There are solar refrigerators and freezers that run on 12V power

http://www.sundanzer.com/

MacG · Post by **MacG** » 20 Sep 2005, 15:45

fishertrop wrote:http://www.sundanzer.com/

Great! Thanks! 12V DC brushless motors. Neat! Danfoss seem to make an interesting series of DC compressors.

PowerswitchClive · Post by **PowerswitchClive** » 21 Sep 2005, 00:06

hatchelt wrote:Clive, just out of curiosity, where did you get the Potassium Iodate tablets and Sars masks from?

Both items are available on ebay. When I lived in Ireland the Irish government gave each household a stock of (24tablets per person) Potassium Iodate, incase of nuclear accident in the UK.

The masks can be bought from a company in the US
http://www.turiyagateway.com/

The Potassium Iodate protects the Thyroid from inhaled or ingested Radioactive Iodine in a nuclear accident. Again, available from the US for ?10.50 plus postage...

Ebay

Also Tamiflu (the drug that the government is now purchases for 2% of the population, should there be a flu pandemic) is available from

http://www.ukmedix.co.uk/tamiflu/index.cfm

Also, Peaky, I haven't logged in for a couple of days, so in answer to your earlier question, I live in a 3bedroom flat in Southend.... my mum has a house with a garden and veg plot

The list I gave earlier, sounds like a lot, but really it isn't. Most of the items are stored out of sight etc

hatchelt · Post by **hatchelt** » 21 Sep 2005, 08:24

Many thanks Clive.

Just as a heads up for everyone; BnQ are doing packs of 12 different veg seeds for ?3.98.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 21 Sep 2005, 09:59

Cheers hatchelt - will pop round at lunchtime.

grinu · Post by **grinu** » 21 Sep 2005, 22:18

Haven't the money to get much in yet, but this is my list of things to buy (picked up from various website and books). Hope it's of some use...

THINGS TO BUY

WATER
Water butt
Extra water tank
Purifying equipment and filters
Still for condensing water

FOOD
Books on self sufficiency
Books on permaculture
Books on agroforestry
Seeds that will keep
Stainless steel or cast iron cookware ? saucepans, frying pan, colander
Wood burning stove or similar
Good quality stainless steel kitchen knives
Fishing rod and net
Wormery / composter

TOOLS
Books on DIY
Basic, quality hand tools
Shovel
Fork
Spade
Rake
Pick axe
Screwdrivers
Claw hammer
Ball hammer
Hand drill
Crow-bar
Scythe
Axe
Saw (and chain)
Pliers
Fire-steel x 2 (?9.99), water proof matches.
Leatherman multi-tool
Fire extinguisher, small canister ABC type
Duct Tape
Plastic storage containers
Plastic ziplock bags for food, 1 gal and sandwich sized
Sewing kit: Needles, thread, cotton, sissors, pins & buttons - ?2.99 - http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop ... cr349.html
Duct-tape
Rope

FIRST AID / MEDICAL
First aid kit
Sterile adhesive bandages in assorted sizes
Scissors
3-inch sterile gauze pads (8-12)
2-inch sterile gauze pads (8-12)
Tweezers
Hypoallergenic adhesive tape
Safety razor blade
Baby wipes, Moistened towelettes (8-10 packages)
Bar of soap
Sunscreen
Needle
latex gloves
Aspirin and ibuprofin
Antacid
extra glasses
Waterless/Alcohol based hand sanitizer, like Purell
Antiseptic spray (same as Betadine?)
Tongue blades and wooden applicator sticks
Non-breakable thermometer
Tube of petroleum jelly or other lubricant
Assorted sizes of safety pins
Herbs
Books on herbal medicine
Cut-throat razor blade

MATERIALS
Spare copper piping and fittings
Building materials
Rope and string
Nails, fasteners, hinges, screws
Green-house
Clear plastic sheets
Glass bottles
Aluminium foil
Silver emergency blankets

CLOTHING
Warm clothing
Thermals
Water proofing materials
Work jeans
Good quality boots
Work gloves
Webbing

ENERGY
Candles
Lanterns
Rechargeable camping lantern (solar powered)
Batteries (rechargeable)
Solar battery charger or portable solar power
Insulation
Books on creating own energy
Charcoal

COMMUNICATION
Wind up radio
Ham radio

HUNTING
Air rifle ? BSA lightning

MONEY
Gold
Silver

HOME
Books on adobe homes
Books on ?earth shelters?
Solar panels and wiring
Wind turbines and wiring
Wood burner
House: Back garden, Near running water, Land, Away from cities

INFORMATION
Microfiche
Microscope
Books

EMERGENCY SUPPLIES
?100.00 in cash in house.
SUGGESTED WEEKLY FOOD SUPPLY FOR 2 PEOPLE IN 2004
? Water - around 24 litres
? Breakfast cereal - 1 box
? UHT milk - 3 x large tetra paks
? Canned tuna x 6
? Canned corn x 6
? Canned meat (e.g. ham or corned beef) x 6
? Canned chicken & mushroom pie x 6
? Canned vegetables x 10
? Canned potatoes x 6
? Canned baked beans with sausages x 3
? Canned fruit (e.g. pears, peaches) in juice x 9
? Canned creamed rice or tapioca x 3
? Custard 1 large tetra paks
? Chocolate bars x 1 large
? Dried apricots x 2 bags
? Source: British Nutrition Foundation

72 Hour Survival Kit - one for car, one for house, one for work

Basic 72-Hour Kit
NOTE - What makes this kit 72-hour is the food, water and medical supplies it contains. Other items can be expected to last a lot longer. If you want to extend the timescale of the kit, add more consumables.
This survival kit should be prepared and kept ready in the event that it is needed. Place it in a safe spot at home, work or car.
This kit contains the essential things that you will need to live for 3 days. You can design it to fit your needs but it should contain the following as a minimum:
Bottled water (minimum of 3 gallons per person)
Water filter and purification tablets
High-energy food (non-perishable) that requires little or no cooking (ration packs are great and have a long shelf life)
Camping plates and utensils
Vitamins and energy food bars, salt, honey
Backpacker's cooking stove and fuel
Flashlight and spare batteries and spare bulb (unless it's an LED one)
Candles and matches (strike-anywhere type)
3 x 12 hour chemical lightsticks
First aid kit, medicines (allergies, asthma, diabetes, etc), spare eyeglasses
Emergency medical book
Seasonal clothing (rain gear, jacket, boots, etc.)
Tool box, pry bar, pliers, screwdriver, hatchet, etc.
Folding camp shovel (for latrine and garbage)
Pocket knife/pocket tool (multipurpose, sharp)
Roll of Duct Tape
10 x bin bags
Fire extinguisher
Local area maps
Tissues, toilet paper, etc
Soap, toothbrushes, personal care kit
Plastic, foil, emergency space/wool blanket
Sleeping bag
Battery or solar powered radio
Cash (small denominations)
Plastic tubing for siphoning gasoline
Keep all in a plastic container with a tight lid. A large plastic bucket is a good idea. For total peace of mind, create separate ones for the home, car and office - I doubt that even three or four of these DIY kits would cost as much as one commercial one!

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 22 Sep 2005, 14:08

Wow, what a serious list! Thanks.

Got my seeds from B&Q - a large pack with 12 packs of seeds within for ?3.95

grinu · Post by **grinu** » 22 Sep 2005, 17:46

I haven't really looked into seeds yet. How long do they remain viable for?? Just cos seed packets usually have a use by date on them so I wasn't sure...

MacG · Post by **MacG** » 22 Sep 2005, 19:03

I have used an identical one for extended times, and they are amazing. Very compact but give about 7 kW and good for some simple cooking.
Got it second hand for ?130.

And the electronics shop featured this one for ?40. 12V DC->230V AC, 600W continous, 1500W intermittent, modified sine and good for reactive loads from motors. Together with the wind turbine and dual lead/acid's I'll be able to keep the Class A fridge going until it breaks. Better than nothing at least...

Bandidoz · Post by **Bandidoz** » 22 Sep 2005, 19:31

I'd like to know how to create seeds; to me they're the missing part of my food production cycle knowledge....

skeptik · Post by **skeptik** » 22 Sep 2005, 19:52

Bandidoz wrote:I'd like to now how to create seeds;

lol... you cant create seeds. Only plants can create seeds.

...and Bandidoz said "Fiat ovum"...

Bandidoz · Post by **Bandidoz** » 22 Sep 2005, 22:11

Reaalllllyyyyyy ?????

Were you last in the queue when God was dishing out common sense?

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 23 Sep 2005, 07:57

grinu wrote:I haven't really looked into seeds yet. How long do they remain viable for?? Just cos seed packets usually have a use by date on them so I wasn't sure...

Recently, some scientist germinated a seed that was 2000 years old and had been found in an archeological dig. How long a seed lasts can depend on how it is stored and what species it is. Dry cool conditions are usually best

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 23 Sep 2005, 07:59

Bandidoz wrote:I'd like to know how to create seeds; to me they're the missing part of my food production cycle knowledge....

Assuming you got a plant that gives seeds (and not all that should do) then you just take the seeds at the end of the season and save them in cool dry place.

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