petrol protest blog. add your entry quickly.

chubbygristle · Post by **chubbygristle** » 12 Dec 2007, 00:45

hello,

if you are quick you might be able to get a comment in on the front page of the blog this time about peak oil, I have had a go and have got on there but this was rushed and not brilliantly worded. If anyone's still awake and has something better articulated they could slap on there quickly then that would be great.

http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/weeken ... st-87.html

The people commenting on this latest protest blog seem to be very short sighted and unawarwe of what a complete waste of time such protests are.

Hope someone can do a better job than me. Half asleep and rushed as ever. Would be worth putting together a nice concise cut and paste job for the future.

Oh I don't think URL's are allowed / will be accepted.

Regards,

syberberg · Post by **syberberg** » 12 Dec 2007, 14:55

Tried to add a comment, but it won't accept my email address for some reason.

oobers · Post by **oobers** » 12 Dec 2007, 18:21

Ooh, its been a long time since I posted! Feels a bit weird. Been busy here at Trelay www.trelay.org and only in the last few weeks have I been lurking again, looking at what you all been posting. Spurred on to post by my being featured in the powerswitch headlines!! http://transitionculture.org/2007/12/11 ... te-change/

This thread interests me. I have been car free for nearly 2 years and adjusted my life accordingly. Listening to the arguments of the hardened car driver is hard work for me. Reading through the blog at petrolprices.com was like reading through a radio play script where the play is about people who are aware and people who are oblivious and the odd person who is 'half aware'. Where someone posts a blatantly 'support protest' message, have they read the last few 'peak oil' messages? I picture them sitting as I just have, reading for 5 minutes, very strong arguments about peak oil and then blindly continuing with their 'protest!!' message regardless and wonder just how the human brain works??!! Do you think any of it sinks in? Do you think they read the previous posts at all? Where someone posts 'have read the previous messages and agree we must reduce our dependance on oil but... (I need my car for work, bla bla bla) is there any chance of winning them over by continuous blasting peak oil messages?

By the way, nice contribution, JohnB. Would be good to hear from you!!

Keela · Post by **Keela** » 12 Dec 2007, 18:52

Hi oobers. I've enjoyed reading all your Trelay stuff. Brilliant pictures too!

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 12 Dec 2007, 19:12

oobers wrote:By the way, nice contribution, JohnB. Would be good to hear from you!!

Hi Oobers. I just discovered you e-mailed me a couple of weeks ago, but to the wrong address! I got a bit carried away with my rant this morning, but it probably won't do much good. Good practice at ranting though

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Incidentally, on the subject of Trelay, the web site for those of us who didn't move there and are still looking is almost ready!

oobers · Post by **oobers** » 12 Dec 2007, 20:18

Sally wrote:Hi oobers. I've enjoyed reading all your Trelay stuff. Brilliant pictures too!

Great! New newsletter on its way shortly. We have 'potential new resident weekends' running in the new year, too. Details will be posted on the website soon.

Keela · Post by **Keela** » 12 Dec 2007, 21:22

oobers wrote:
Sally wrote:Hi oobers. I've enjoyed reading all your Trelay stuff. Brilliant pictures too!
Great! New newsletter on its way shortly. We have 'potential new resident weekends' running in the new year, too. Details will be posted on the website soon.

I wish you all well...... but I have to admit that NOTHING short of a direct meteor hit would persuade me to uproot!

However I'll look in again and read your updates because this is such a positive action type story it makes my heart feel good.

Who did the brochure? It's a really good piece - just the right balance between the practicalities and the dream. The place looks idyllic.

Sorry - it seems we are going OT. So just to keep on topic, I filled my car again today. No queues no problem. Good to keep topped up I guess.

leroy · Post by **leroy** » 12 Dec 2007, 21:38

Thank you for the heads-up on the new petrolprices blog Chubbygristle - looks like a good few well-reasoned comments and repeated reference to the PO words has subdued the usual entitlement ranting somewhat.

I almost want to write another one on there.

hardworkinghippy · Post by **hardworkinghippy** » 12 Dec 2007, 23:24

I'm sorry I seemed to ignore what some of you may have said, (PO, PO, PO ...

) but I really think those initials need to be repeated and repeated to really get the message through to people.

Oh, and I love this one :

68I thought this site was for people who want to know where to find cheap petrol! CAR USERS.
Those of you you who are moaning about cars and fuel should stick to your push bikes turn off your computers switch off all your electricity and leave us in peace.

Irene

RevdTess · Post by **RevdTess** » 12 Dec 2007, 23:34

oobers wrote:
Sally wrote:Hi oobers. I've enjoyed reading all your Trelay stuff. Brilliant pictures too!
Great! New newsletter on its way shortly. We have 'potential new resident weekends' running in the new year, too. Details will be posted on the website soon.

Gosh, hadn't seen the website. It's making me terribly envious, though I'm still no closer to having any idea how I'd make an income in darkest cornwall than I was when I came down to visit the earlier property prospect! If I could figure that out, I'd drop the solarboat idea on the spot.

Bandidoz · Post by **Bandidoz** » 13 Dec 2007, 01:01

oobers wrote:Been busy here at Trelay www.trelay.org and only in the last few weeks have I been lurking again, looking at what you all been posting.

Hi Ben, good to see progress! I see you're pretty close to Millook, where you might be able to go kayak fishing:
http://www.outdooradventure.co.uk/kayaking.htm

oobers · Post by **oobers** » 13 Dec 2007, 07:00

Bandidoz wrote:
oobers wrote:Been busy here at Trelay www.trelay.org and only in the last few weeks have I been lurking again, looking at what you all been posting.
Hi Ben, good to see progress! I see you're pretty close to Millook, where you might be able to go kayak fishing:
http://www.outdooradventure.co.uk/kayaking.htm

I've written more here on the South West forum http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/vie ... 0757#50757
and suggest if anyone wants to continue discussion on Trelay, they do so there so this thread isn't OT'd

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 15 Dec 2007, 21:55

Anyone fancy commenting on the Beeb article about "Why are petrol prices so high?" which doesn't even mention an oil supply crunch??

Beeb petrol thread

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 16 Dec 2007, 00:20

Sent this in

Your report leaves out the most important factor in the fuel price rises, which is the increasing shortage of supply of crude oil on the world market. It is the inability of the world's oil producers to increase the supply any further in the face of increasing world demand that is causing the price to rise and this shortage has only just started.

Over the next few years the inability to increase production will become an inability to maintain their current rate of production. The US reached this point in 1970/1 and the North Sea in the early 90s. The rest of the world will gradually follow. Since then our production, and that of the US has declined at 4% to 8% per year.

We need to change our lifestyles completely in the face of this change of circumstances. Commuting by car will become a thing of the past. Nice warm homes 24/7 will become unaffordable unless you have an eco home with massive insulation. The rubbish we are being sold at the moment will be barely habitable: the customers insistence on a "designer kitchen" over proper insulation will come home to roost as internal temperatures drop when the gas is not available. And no chimney as an alternative!

The government is too scared to tell us these things because it might damage economic growth. We might stop buying all the unnecessary STUFF that keeps the economy ticking over. Perhaps the BBC should carry out a "Panorama Investigation" on the implications of the peaking of the world's oil supply to the world economy. Someone needs to tell the people the truth.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 16 Dec 2007, 06:59

Well done Ken.