Hilary Clinton's strategy

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 05 Nov 2007, 20:49

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/11/5/93656/3939

That page is worth a skim through, just in case Bush doesn't manage to start WW3 and we actually find someone wih more than two brain cells in charge across t'pond.

Plenty to nitpick but the general thrust is soooo different to what we've seen for the last several years.

Neily at the peak · Post by **Neily at the peak** » 05 Nov 2007, 21:26

Encouraging!!

However I was in my local bookshop today,,, well as local as it gets (Waterstones) and I skimmed through a book about Condi vs Hillary, it appears to suggest that Condoleeza Rice if she can be persuaded to run is far more qualified than Hillary who has run on the coat tails of her husband and indeed has not been all that successful as first lady or as a senator. My own personal preference for a candidate would be Al Gore but maybe I am a sucker for propaganda and anyway I don't have a vote.

It comes as no surprise that Hillary knows about energy security issues even if she doesn't mention peak oil specifically. Bill Clinton was talking about this months ago.

Neil

SunnyJim · Post by **SunnyJim** » 13 Nov 2007, 00:03

Condoleeza Rice is to involved with the current gang. They'd apply too much pressure to her if you ask me.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 13 Nov 2007, 07:49

SunnyJim wrote:Condoleeza Rice is to involved with the current gang. They'd apply too much pressure to her if you ask me.

I totally agree Jim. If Rice came to power, the current administration's neocon policies would continue.

Neily at the peak · Post by **Neily at the peak** » 13 Nov 2007, 10:53

SunnyJim wrote:Condoleeza Rice is to involved with the current gang. They'd apply too much pressure to her if you ask me.

I would agree with that, I was just commenting on the book I saw. As far as I am aware she has no intention of running. Part of what the book is designed to do is to make her decide to run. I no longer believe that the politics of left or right can solve our problems and that practical politics has to be the order of the day.

If Hilary can follow through with these policies then she may make a good president. I heard on radio 4 yesterday that Barak Obama is making a bit of a comeback.

Neil

Kentucky Fried Panda · Post by **Kentucky Fried Panda** » 13 Nov 2007, 16:32

Hilary is already in some corporation's pocket. Did you see how much and how quickly her war chest filled with money?

Bill Clinton for all his liberal ways was actually a conservative in disguise, he promised healthcare but never delivered it.
Hilary will be more of the same, but spun in a different way. Wag the dog with a feminist camouflage.

Neily at the peak · Post by **Neily at the peak** » 13 Nov 2007, 21:11

Haggis wrote: Bill Clinton for all his liberal ways was actually a conservative in disguise, he promised healthcare but never delivered it.
Hilary will be more of the same, but spun in a different way. Wag the dog with a feminist camouflage.

More accurately Bill promised it and Hilary never delivered it. She was the one who was put in charge of it and failed to deliver. A sour taste that still remains in America and could derail her chances.

Neil

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 14 Nov 2007, 02:47

The big US corporations pay for both parties in the States. That way they get what they want no matter who gets in. That's why what gets done bears no relation to what the politicians say.

I can't find the link to the article on this unfortunately.

gug · Post by **gug** » 14 Nov 2007, 16:14

Whilst another republican in the whitehouse doesnt thrill me to the core, Ron Paul is saying some extremely interesting things.
(although I certainly dont agree with everything he says , his views on taxes and the fed are extremely enlightened (read: either he's very brave or he hasnt been threatened yet)

He's actually *different* from all the usual suspects, however, if he did get in i fully expect that he would be murdered shortly after.

Not that it matters what i think, being a brit !