A scary moment

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 25 Oct 2007, 10:00

Dinor wrote:
In Spain? Are you taking a punt on a new Ice Age ??
Spain is a cold country with a hot sun!

Good point I've only ever been there in June and August (and only to the flat bits) when it's HotHotHot and there are giant green circles of crops (look wierd), everything around them is brown.

Susukino · Post by **Susukino** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:31

RenewableCandy wrote:
Dinor wrote:
In Spain? Are you taking a punt on a new Ice Age ??
Spain is a cold country with a hot sun!
Good point I've only ever been there in June and August (and only to the flat bits) when it's HotHotHot and there are giant green circles of crops (look wierd), everything around them is brown.

Spain has a serious water problem. Not the kind of place I'd choose to seek refuge in when the air conditioning stops. I've lived through very hot summers in Japan for the past decade and I can see why summer, not winter, was traditionally considered the killer.

Suss

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:45

Yes but Japan, unlike Spain, isn't known for its thermally-massive self-cooling housing (or is it? I've only ever been to Tokyo).

Susukino · Post by **Susukino** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:09

RenewableCandy wrote:Yes but Japan, unlike Spain, isn't known for its thermally-massive self-cooling housing (or is it? I've only ever been to Tokyo).

No, it's not and the heat is drier in Spain. But heat is heat and it has a significant impact on irrigation needs!

Sorry, I didn't intend to start bashing people's choice of country, it just slipped out... My sister lives in Madrid, nice place, but I do wonder about the climate. I wonder about Japan's climate too, naturally.

Suss

Erik · Post by **Erik** » 25 Oct 2007, 21:16

Susukino wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote:Yes but Japan, unlike Spain, isn't known for its thermally-massive self-cooling housing (or is it? I've only ever been to Tokyo).
No, it's not and the heat is drier in Spain. But heat is heat and it has a significant impact on irrigation needs!

Sorry, I didn't intend to start bashing people's choice of country, it just slipped out... My sister lives in Madrid, nice place, but I do wonder about the climate. I wonder about Japan's climate too, naturally.

Suss

You're right about Madrid not being an ideal post-PO location, but it could be much worse. We're here now because its where the jobs are, let's face it, and I guess we feel comfortable here in terms of being close by to family and friends, and that's pretty important too!

Apart from the climate (oh, and the lack of "thermally-massive self-cooling housing" in Madrid!), the main problem might be the huge and growing urban sprawl and a population that relies too much on non-local produce and imports from the rest of Spain and of course further afield.

On the other hand a large number of Spaniards who live in Madrid have only migrated towards jobs in the capital over the last 25 years or so, and still have extended families back at their more rural villages and towns of origin. When the SHTF they'll all head back! And hopefully we will move somewhere rural too, sooner or later.

The best place to be in Spain post-PO is probably Asturias or Cantabria on the north coast methinks, somewhere like this:

Susukino · Post by **Susukino** » 25 Oct 2007, 21:27

Erik wrote:The best place to be in Spain post-PO is probably Asturias or Cantabria on the north coast methinks

Don't know much about those two but my sister's partner is from Galicia, a bit further West. Much wetter climate over there, I suppose Asturias and Cantabria are similar? It strikes me that any of those three would be better than Madrid, Andalusia, Castile etc.

Suss

Tracy P · Post by **Tracy P** » 26 Oct 2007, 12:57

Johnny
thats the most amazing upbringing I have heard of! and what great learning!

Erik · Post by **Erik** » 26 Oct 2007, 17:36

Tracy Pepler wrote:Johnny
thats the most amazing upbringing I have heard of! and what great learning!

I agree (we sort of wandered way off topic there, sorry).
Sounds like fun Johnny! And I guess you have followed in your mum's footsteps to some extent?

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 02 Nov 2007, 14:43

Strolled into our local Organic emporium the morning of the Coryton fireworks and bought 10 kg of rice. Got funny looks. Pointed out there might be a petrol shortage, have-you-seen-the-news. Got more funny looks.

But the owner did point out that the prices of his wholesale rice and various other things were shooting up. 'Course it might have been a sales pitch I dunno, I didn't stay around for a third outbreak of funny looks. I went home, where they understand these things

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 02 Nov 2007, 14:52

Got funny looks from the cashier in Asda yesterday, buying loads of canned spuds, carrots and the like.

People are very perceptive. If more and more people start stocking up, it won't go unnoticed at the supermarkets.

Susukino · Post by **Susukino** » 02 Nov 2007, 14:55

RenewableCandy wrote:But the owner did point out that the prices of his wholesale rice and various other things were shooting up.

A lot of foodstuffs have been rising steadily in price this year - this is a global phenomenon and not his imagination.

Suss

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 02 Nov 2007, 15:06

Andy Hunt wrote:Got funny looks from the cashier in Asda yesterday, buying loads of canned spuds, carrots and the like.

People are very perceptive. If more and more people start stocking up, it won't go unnoticed at the supermarkets.

Yes I wonder how they'll respond? Put up the price if you buy more than 10 of anything?

rushdy · Post by **rushdy** » 02 Nov 2007, 17:17

Yes I wonder how they'll respond? Put up the price if you buy more than 10 of anything?

Go round twice

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 02 Nov 2007, 17:25

rushdy wrote:
Yes I wonder how they'll respond? Put up the price if you buy more than 10 of anything?
Go round twice

Brilliant, and yes the second time I'll wear my false beard, just in case!

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 02 Nov 2007, 17:31

RenewableCandy wrote:
rushdy wrote:
Yes I wonder how they'll respond? Put up the price if you buy more than 10 of anything?
Go round twice
Brilliant, and yes the second time I'll wear my false beard, just in case!

Are you sure? You want to be mistaken for a hoarder AND a terrorist?