Self-defence (and why)
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adam2
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As others have stated, conflict or fighting is best avoided if possible, however in some circumstances a fight to protect ones life, family or property may be unavoidable.
At present the police and the courts do not seem to take burglary, mugging, and other thefts very seriosly, the problem is liable to get worse , not better.
Many potential weapons can be purchased legally and it would be prudent IMHO to do so. Examples include crossbows, axes, cooks knives, hunting knives, pickaxe handles etc.
Think twice before defending yourself in normal peacetime conditions, the law is heavily biased against the housholder and in favour of the criminal.
Preparation for a more lawless future is however prudent.
To avoid becoming a victim, or having to fight it out (you might not win!) consider the following points
Dont leave potential weapons such as cooks knives, cricket bats etc. within easy reach of an intruder. Every year burglars murder people with a weapon found in the victims home. Seldom used dangerous tools should be locked up, everyday items like cooks knives should at least be placed out of sight, and somwhere not too obvious.
Dont look affluent, either keep your money somwhere safe like say northern rock, or spend it on low key preps, never on conspicous consumption.
Although supporting the local economy is generally considered to be a good thing, dont buy large stocks of anything locally, to be known as a hoarder would increase the chances of being a victim. Either stock up gradually, as part of your normal shopping, or visit a supermarket in a different town where you are not known.
At present the police and the courts do not seem to take burglary, mugging, and other thefts very seriosly, the problem is liable to get worse , not better.
Many potential weapons can be purchased legally and it would be prudent IMHO to do so. Examples include crossbows, axes, cooks knives, hunting knives, pickaxe handles etc.
Think twice before defending yourself in normal peacetime conditions, the law is heavily biased against the housholder and in favour of the criminal.
Preparation for a more lawless future is however prudent.
To avoid becoming a victim, or having to fight it out (you might not win!) consider the following points
Dont leave potential weapons such as cooks knives, cricket bats etc. within easy reach of an intruder. Every year burglars murder people with a weapon found in the victims home. Seldom used dangerous tools should be locked up, everyday items like cooks knives should at least be placed out of sight, and somwhere not too obvious.
Dont look affluent, either keep your money somwhere safe like say northern rock, or spend it on low key preps, never on conspicous consumption.
Although supporting the local economy is generally considered to be a good thing, dont buy large stocks of anything locally, to be known as a hoarder would increase the chances of being a victim. Either stock up gradually, as part of your normal shopping, or visit a supermarket in a different town where you are not known.
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biffvernon
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To hell with what the law says Id much rather go to court or prison than risk winding up dead .
I certainly would fight back and have fought back, if someone broke into my house I would feel that my life was in danger and I would attack them.
I have lots of dangerous weapons in my house as I come from a very warlike family who have collected weapons for generations .
I also collect hacky stabby things like japanese swords and claymores and odd agricultural antiques slashers, axes, and suchlike , so there isnt a room in the house where there isnt big dangerous stuff that you could use to whomp people to death with in a very bloody manner .
I quite like it like that I feel perfectly safe , my advice to people worried about violent crime (Im not by the way) is fill your house with dangerous weapons and develop a more warlike and carefree attitude to what happens in the future .
I certainly would fight back and have fought back, if someone broke into my house I would feel that my life was in danger and I would attack them.
I have lots of dangerous weapons in my house as I come from a very warlike family who have collected weapons for generations .
I also collect hacky stabby things like japanese swords and claymores and odd agricultural antiques slashers, axes, and suchlike , so there isnt a room in the house where there isnt big dangerous stuff that you could use to whomp people to death with in a very bloody manner .
I quite like it like that I feel perfectly safe , my advice to people worried about violent crime (Im not by the way) is fill your house with dangerous weapons and develop a more warlike and carefree attitude to what happens in the future .
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Please could you quote three common law cases in the UK, in the last ten years where a householder has been convicted for defending his house from criminals?adam2 wrote:Think twice before defending yourself in normal peacetime conditions, the law is heavily biased against the housholder and in favour of the criminal.
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RenewableCandy
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People often think about Tony Martin and the crims who raided his farm and other places (in several incidents) before he cracked and shot one of them (the son of a father-and-son team I trow). All good stuff but he shot the guy in the back (ie presumably as he was walking away). Not good politic! Didn't look good in court.stumuz wrote: Please could you quote three common law cases in the UK, in the last ten years where a householder has been convicted for defending his house from criminals?
Hostage negotiation skills that's a good idea. I learned mine dealing with my Mum's doberman!
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RenewableCandy
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Nasty pointy things are useful but make sure they're somewhere where it's YOU that can reach them first!!!
Sometimes we devolve that kind of lateral thinking problem to the kids (ever noticed how much better they are at that kind o'thing?) "If you were a burglar how would you get into our house?", or "If you'd got in and you thought you needed a weapon what would you pick up?" you'd be surprised what they come up with!
Sometimes we devolve that kind of lateral thinking problem to the kids (ever noticed how much better they are at that kind o'thing?) "If you were a burglar how would you get into our house?", or "If you'd got in and you thought you needed a weapon what would you pick up?" you'd be surprised what they come up with!
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adam2
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I also keep kitchen knives in the kitchen, but they are out of sight in a drawer with a concealed means of opening.biffvernon wrote:Ah, we tend to keep our kitchen knives in the, er, kitchen. Maybe that's too obvious. Mind you, the intruder will need to bring his/her own cricket bat as we haven't got one.adam2 wrote:Dont leave potential weapons such as kitchen knives, cricket bats etc. within easy reach of an intruder.
Whilst of course a determined search would reveal them, knives are not within sight, nor could they be quickly grabbed from a obvious location.
Except for the one beside my bed which I keep forgetting to return to the proper place
