Collective intelligence used in alternate reality games...

writerguy · Post by **writerguy** » 24 Apr 2007, 03:04

Andy Hunt wrote:Seriously though writerguy, all the other emergency services have training courses and packages. It seems 100% logical that the world has a 'dry-run' for an inevitable scenario such as PO.

Well, sure. In the US, I think that plan is right up there on the shelf next to the "Hurricane Preparedness in New Orleans" plan.

Andy Hunt wrote:Well done with the game, it will be interesting to see what comes out of it!!

Yes, that it will.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 24 Apr 2007, 08:33

writerguy wrote:
Andy Hunt wrote:Seriously though writerguy, all the other emergency services have training courses and packages. It seems 100% logical that the world has a 'dry-run' for an inevitable scenario such as PO.
Well, sure. In the US, I think that plan is right up there on the shelf next to the "Hurricane Preparedness in New Orleans" plan.

I love the cynacism!

Yes, I would not doubt that the US Govt. is that well prepared......... to do nothing

writerguy · Post by **writerguy** » 25 Apr 2007, 18:13

snow hope wrote:
writerguy wrote:
Andy Hunt wrote:Seriously though writerguy, all the other emergency services have training courses and packages. It seems 100% logical that the world has a 'dry-run' for an inevitable scenario such as PO.
Well, sure. In the US, I think that plan is right up there on the shelf next to the "Hurricane Preparedness in New Orleans" plan.

I love the cynacism!

Yes, I would not doubt that the US Govt. is that well prepared......... to do nothing

I've read about other simulations of oil shocks, such as the SAFE one, and they conclude that policymakers actually have very little latitude to do anything once the oil shock hits. I've also read about actual oil shocks, which support that. Here's Ronald R. Cooke:
http://www.321energy.com/editorials/coo ... 91506.html

My read is: there's a pretty good chance that whatever plan is in place, if any, is not going to be up to the task.

Keela · Post by **Keela** » 25 Apr 2007, 20:27

Good link writerguy

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 26 Apr 2007, 06:23

writerguy wrote:
I've read about other simulations of oil shocks, such as the SAFE one, and they conclude that policymakers actually have very little latitude to do anything once the oil shock hits. I've also read about actual oil shocks, which support that. Here's Ronald R. Cooke:
http://www.321energy.com/editorials/coo ... 91506.html

My read is: there's a pretty good chance that whatever plan is in place, if any, is not going to be up to the task.

To me that does not comes as a surprise. Governments etc. form only one part of a complex interacting system and, thus has limits on what it can do within that system. To actually achieve more we would need a new system.

BTW, writerguy, so OK for a 30th April launch?

writerguy · Post by **writerguy** » 26 Apr 2007, 23:43

isenhand wrote:
writerguy wrote:
I've read about other simulations of oil shocks, such as the SAFE one, and they conclude that policymakers actually have very little latitude to do anything once the oil shock hits. I've also read about actual oil shocks, which support that. Here's Ronald R. Cooke:
http://www.321energy.com/editorials/coo ... 91506.html

My read is: there's a pretty good chance that whatever plan is in place, if any, is not going to be up to the task.
To me that does not comes as a surprise. Governments etc. form only one part of a complex interacting system and, thus has limits on what it can do within that system. To actually achieve more we would need a new system.

BTW, writerguy, so OK for a 30th April launch?

Yep, coming right up. Only 3 days, 17 hours, 32 minutes, 12 seconds away...

rightee · Post by **rightee** » 02 May 2007, 12:12

This is live now. Has anybody had a go?

http://www.worldwithoutoil.org/

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 02 May 2007, 12:59

I had a look. I was hoping to sit down on Monday and give it ago but a small army of boys arrived and took all the computers in the house to play their own games. It looks very interesting but I feel I was a but unrealistic thinking I could play as it will take a bit more time than I have availed. However, I?ll keep an eye on it and maybe chip in if I can.

Bandidoz · Post by **Bandidoz** » 02 May 2007, 13:05

http://www.worldwithoutoil.org/

NASTY use of "hidden text". Expect to receive a sharp slap on the wrist from Google sometime

writerguy · Post by **writerguy** » 10 May 2007, 08:25

Bandidoz wrote:http://www.worldwithoutoil.org/

NASTY use of "hidden text". Expect to receive a sharp slap on the wrist from Google sometime

None so far; we're on "Week 11" and rolling fine. People seem to be able to find it.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 14 May 2007, 15:11

Now that WWO is up and running, perhaps the thread title should be changed to show the URL?

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 14 May 2007, 15:15

I have had a roam around WWO.

It seems to work a lot better than I thought it might.

I had assumed that a full-blown highly coordinated "proper" role playing game would be needed .. but in fact this loose collection of individuals each running their own mini-simulations in their heads seems to give insights too.

Sure, there are several flakey or pointless posts ... but overall the content is interesting.

The net effect however is to make the reader feel scared & worried ... a WWO might not be a very nice place

writerguy · Post by **writerguy** » 14 May 2007, 22:52

Vortex wrote:Now that WWO is up and running, perhaps the thread title should be changed to show the URL?

That's a good idea. A moderator does that?

writerguy · Post by **writerguy** » 14 May 2007, 22:56

Vortex wrote:I have had a roam around WWO.

It seems to work a lot better than I thought it might.

I had assumed that a full-blown highly coordinated "proper" role playing game would be needed .. but in fact this loose collection of individuals each running their own mini-simulations in their heads seems to give insights too.

Sure, there are several flakey or pointless posts ... but overall the content is interesting.

The net effect however is to make the reader feel scared & worried ... a WWO might not be a very nice place

Thanks for roaming around. It is an interesting experiment. It is scary and worrisome at times, but I honestly can't say it's unrealistically so. People buying guns... people using guns.... they do that over here.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 23 May 2007, 08:36

The "game" has now been running for some time now.

Is anyone following it in detail?

They are many great contributions - the short term effects of a supply crisis are covered particularly well.

The game is only designed to cover the first 30 weeks of Peak Oil crisis time ... but "Peak Oil Is Forever" ...

I suppose it's easier to imagine being without car fuel for a few weeks than it is to think of a world which is running on 50% of its original oil supplies, and which has had no excess energy or resources for several years.

Perhaps we need a similar "game" which covers the longer term effects of descending the Peak Oil slope?