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invalid wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 15:54
It's more like 50%. Oh, and of course the side with overwhelming superiority in every area is suffering heavy losses :roll:
I have recently watched a YouTube video documenting one 14 mile stretch of road where Russia has retaken territory in Kursk in the last couple of weeks, with over 20 destroyed Russian armoured vehicles.

Another video shows Russian troops with a T34 tank, over 80 years old, although it is not clear if this is intended for the Ukraine invasion.
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UndercoverElephant wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 17:59
invalid wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 15:54 Oh, and of course the side with overwhelming superiority in every area is suffering heavy losses :roll:
The level of delusion you are suffering from is quite spectacular. If Russia was "overwhelmingly superior in every area" this war would have been over in about two weeks. So far it has taken two years and cost about 100,000 Russian lives, and the Russian territorial gains you are presenting as big victories are in fact tiny. At the current rate, it would take about a century for Russia to defeat Ukraine, and several million lives.
It's very hard to know from the outside what's going on. However, it is telling that Russia is feeling the need to take significant assistance from DPRK and Iran - both, small, weak, technically inferior countries. A few years ago it would be thought daft to expect DPRK and Iran to be able to make significant contributions to the mighty Russia military machine, surely Russian tech is decades more advanced and the industrial capacity far greater.... oh, maybe not?
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clv101 wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 20:11 A few years ago it would be thought daft to expect DPRK and Iran to be able to make significant contributions to the mighty Russia military machine, surely Russian tech is decades more advanced and the industrial capacity far greater.... oh, maybe not?
After 2yrs, think we already know the answer to that.....
Although the 'tech' is changing fast - tanks and warships have been shown to be very vulnerable...
Drones seem to be the way forward - Iran seems to have some good capability in that area...
DPRK is only useful to provide more meat into the grinder - neither they or the Russians has any respect for the lives of their citizens...
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Looks like the DPRK is sending troops to Kursk at least. Perhaps they will stay only in 'official' Russian territory and not go to Ukraine. Perhaps this is Chinese influence or Russia not wanting NATO forces going to Ukraine.

One can only hope for large DPRK casualties if they are silly enough to take part in fighting. I think their troops will be widely hated by Russians and Ukrainians alike especially civilians.
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BritDownUnder wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 20:54 One can only hope for large DPRK casualties if they are silly enough to take part in fighting. I think their troops will be widely hated by Russians and Ukrainians alike especially civilians.
The North Korean soldiers won't know much about anything, they're so brainwashed....
Mr Kim might be worried about their trip to Russia opening their eyes about how bad life is back at home...
However, it's doubtful they'll live long enough to get to use their return tickets...
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https://archive.ph/tSQFx
Ukraine is widening its dragnet in the search for troops to shore up its creaking front lines, conducting spot checks of men at upscale venues including a concert and a wine store in Kyiv and a street of hip eateries in Odessa.
The stepped-up efforts show the difficulties Ukraine faces in raising new soldiers to backfill front-line losses as the war approaches the three-year mark . Tensions are rising in society over how some prominent figures, including state prosecutors, evade the draft through medical exemptions, leading President Volodymyr Zelensky's attorney general to resign last week.

Zelensky has been trying to secure more weapons and security guarantees from the US to turn the tide against Moscow. But at home his biggest immediate problem is getting enough troops to hold the line. Most men who wanted to join the armed forces have already done so and enlisting more is only getting harder. Many are in hiding or have fled the country illegally to escape the draft.
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The pro-Ukraine volunteer and battle tracking group UkraineControlMap said: “To be clear to anyone that just shrugs these [Russian advances] off - these are not normal movements. Ukrainian forces are in disarray, and there is now a very good chance for Russia to capitalize upon these efforts and conquer significant areas.”

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/41230
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UndercoverElephant wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 17:59
invalid wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 15:54 Oh, and of course the side with overwhelming superiority in every area is suffering heavy losses :roll:
The level of delusion you are suffering from is quite spectacular. If Russia was "overwhelmingly superior in every area" this war would have been over in about two weeks. So far it has taken two years and cost about 100,000 Russian lives, and the Russian territorial gains you are presenting as big victories are in fact tiny. At the current rate, it would take about a century for Russia to defeat Ukraine, and several million lives.
...Nearly all of these towns are at least two or three times larger than Sudzha, which I seem to recall you were quite excited about. These are the most fought over and fortified areas of Ukraine - the industrial heartland, some of the most valuable lands in the country in terms of natural resources.

It might be news to you but conflicts don't always continue at the same pace. It may, indeed, bein Russia's interest to take its time while the West gets weaker and wastes billions.
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clv101 wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 20:11
It's very hard to know from the outside what's going on. However, it is telling that Russia is feeling the need to take significant assistance from DPRK and Iran - both, small, weak, technically inferior countries. A few years ago it would be thought daft to expect DPRK and Iran to be able to make significant contributions to the mighty Russia military machine, surely Russian tech is decades more advanced and the industrial capacity far greater.... oh, maybe not?
North Korea has massive stockpiles of soviet weaponry and matching shells. It makes perfect sense for Russia to be using their support. There are rather a lot of sanctions in place you know, and Ukraine is getting support from a few countries too. :roll: This war is showing a mix of old and new tech to make the difference. It's a Sign of strength to be working with allies, to be holding a BRICS summit, and for those allies to actually be willing to deploy significant troops of their own - unlike Ukraine. The NK soldiers that are being deployed is probably the result of a North Korean request.
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invalid wrote: 28 Oct 2024, 19:00
UndercoverElephant wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 17:59
invalid wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 15:54 Oh, and of course the side with overwhelming superiority in every area is suffering heavy losses :roll:
The level of delusion you are suffering from is quite spectacular. If Russia was "overwhelmingly superior in every area" this war would have been over in about two weeks. So far it has taken two years and cost about 100,000 Russian lives, and the Russian territorial gains you are presenting as big victories are in fact tiny. At the current rate, it would take about a century for Russia to defeat Ukraine, and several million lives.
...Nearly all of these towns are at least two or three times larger than Sudzha, which I seem to recall you were quite excited about.
You recall incorrectly. I am not remotely excited about this war. As I already told you, but you have clearly forgotten, this is not our war. I am not Ukrainian. My life is not being affected by this. Unlike you, I don't have any skin in this game.
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UndercoverElephant wrote: 15 Aug 2024, 11:37 Confirmation this morning that British-supplied Challenger 2 tanks are operating inside Russia. Ha! Putin's head must be ready to explode at this point.

Where have the pro-Russian trolls gone?
UndercoverElephant wrote: 21 Aug 2024, 08:28

Ah, I see!! When Russia loses territory it is permanent, but not the other way around!
Holy moley. Looks like they are really going for it.

You did seem pretty excited in these and other posts to be fair. :lol: You also linked to multiple kyivpost articles which you described as 'excellent'.
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invalid wrote: 28 Oct 2024, 20:38
UndercoverElephant wrote: 15 Aug 2024, 11:37 Confirmation this morning that British-supplied Challenger 2 tanks are operating inside Russia. Ha! Putin's head must be ready to explode at this point.

Where have the pro-Russian trolls gone?
UndercoverElephant wrote: 21 Aug 2024, 08:28

Ah, I see!! When Russia loses territory it is permanent, but not the other way around!
Holy moley. Looks like they are really going for it.

You did seem pretty excited in these and other posts to be fair. :lol: You also linked to multiple kyivpost articles which you described as 'excellent'.
I am not responsible for your delusions. What "seems" to you is all in your own head.
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A friend of mine, usually an intensely optimistic pro-Ukraine analyst, returned from Ukraine last week and told me: “It’s like the German Army in January 1945.” The Ukrainians are being driven back on all fronts – including in the Kursk province of Russia, which they had opened with much hope and fanfare in August. More importantly, they are running out of soldiers.
https://theconversation.com/ukraine-can ... ure-242010

Very good article actually.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxvnwkl5kgo
A Russian court has fined Google two undecillion roubles - a two followed by 36 zeroes - for restricting Russian state media channels on YouTube.

In dollar terms that means the tech giant has been told to pay $20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Despite being one of the world's wealthiest companies, that is considerably more than the $2 trillion Google is worth.

In fact, it is far greater than the world’s total GDP, which is estimated by the International Monetary Fund to be $110 trillion.

The fine has reached such a gargantuan level because - state news agency Tass says, external - it doubles every day it is not paid.
Hilarious.
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A googol is 10 to the 100th power - 1 followed by 100 zeros.
Maybe the Ruskies got confused ??
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