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invalid wrote: 17 Oct 2024, 22:07 The irony, oh my. Yes those robots who strictly follow the narrative, and respond appropriately to every pr stunt and media cue. There does seem to be a pool of them still around here.

But there really isn't much left on this dying site for free thinkers.
You're just sore that you've typed loads of posts on this thread, but not moved the dial at all regarding peoples views on the conflict.
You only comment on this thread, which leads us to believe that you're either Russian, or in the pay of the Russians...
The advice would be to just give up...., but maybe you can't if you're paid per post ?
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Ralphw2 wrote: 17 Oct 2024, 10:21 Russia has made this a war of attrition. That means a lot of death and suffering on both sides. The war will be won by the side with the most motivation, logistics and economic strength and support.

Reports that multiple incendiary devices originating from air freight from Russia have caused fires in DHL warehouses in Europe and uk
I find these incendiary devices to be most concerning, and am surprised that this is not more widely reported. Presumably DHL was not the intended target ?
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It is now reported that Russia is increasingly using fpv drones to target individual civilians living close to the front lines. This is straight murder, war crimes, or terrorism. Pick your moniker of choice.

It also shows that the Geneva convention is increasingly irrelevant, if it was ever anything other than a comforting fiction.

Of course both sides are buying Chinese commercial drones to convert into weapons in huge numbers, but increasingly Chinese companies are building weaponised drones themselves and selling them to Russia.
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The DHL devices were reported in Germany, not the UK. The presumed target was to cause fires and crashes in the planes that shipped them.
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Ralphw2 wrote: 18 Oct 2024, 06:32 The DHL devices were reported in Germany, not the UK. The presumed target was to cause fires and crashes in the planes that shipped them.
Fire also caused at a warehouse in Birmingham !!

Russia suspected of planting device on plane that caused UK warehouse fire:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... house-fire
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Both Ukraine and South Korea are reporting intelligence that North Korea is preparing to send up to 12000 troops to fight for Russia in Ukraine. Other sources remain skeptical. 12000 well trained troops would be a significant boost to Russia at this phase in a war of attrition.
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Ralphw2 wrote: 18 Oct 2024, 06:28 It is now reported that Russia is increasingly using fpv drones to target individual civilians living close to the front lines. This is straight murder, war crimes, or terrorism. Pick your moniker of choice.

It also shows that the Geneva convention is increasingly irrelevant, if it was ever anything other than a comforting fiction.
I would say is already completely irrelevant, not because of the actions of Russia but because of the actions of Israel and the abject failure of the United States to make any meaningful attempt to bring Israel under the jurisdiction of "international law".
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Ralphw2 wrote: 19 Oct 2024, 07:51 Both Ukraine and South Korea are reporting intelligence that North Korea is preparing to send up to 12000 troops to fight for Russia in Ukraine. Other sources remain skeptical. 12000 well trained troops would be a significant boost to Russia at this phase in a war of attrition.
Would north korean troops be of much use ? I recall the case of a north korean border guard who escaped across the border. he was reported to be "severely malnourished and suffering from internal parasites as would result from eating raw unfit meat.
There is also the risk that troops would escape, surrender, or defect, even russia has better living standards than does north korea, Ukraine has MUCH higher living standards, and Western Europe bears no comparison to the standards prevailing in the workers paradise north of the korean border.
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It is reported that 18 are already on the run having deserted and 12,000 troops is only 10 days supply for the Russian meat grinder! N Korea has already lost 8 or 9 officers to a drone or Himars attack. It will be interesting to see how many remain loyal once they find out their fate in Russian hands. It will also be interesting to see how many Mr Kim is willing to send once he finds out how efficient the Russian and Ukrainian militaries are in killing Russian allied troops.
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invalid wrote: 02 Oct 2024, 12:09
kenneal - lagger wrote: 27 Sep 2024, 22:18

I'm more inclined to believe western propaganda than the Russian propaganda that you spew. Our journalists aren't reporting the Putin line under threat of imprisonment or falling out of a window or being fed polonium tea. Your propaganda is completely invalid. The name is on the tin.
My 'propaganda' is actually following what's going on on the around, which the British media is extremely selective in reporting. If you haven't noticed the differences between what you've been told all this time, and what's actually happening, then, yes, you're probably beyond help.
I don't get my information from MSM, I get it from several Russian speaking YouTube channels that have proved trustworthy over the last nearly three years. They get much of their input from Russian and Ukrainian Milblogger channels and from other sources which fact check their material and post the media bias for the information.

Perhaps you should listen to your own milbloggers, in-valid, to find out what is really going on in the Russian lines and how appallingly your troops are treated by their often drunken officer corps. I can't speak Russian so you have an advantage over me there.
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kenneal - lagger wrote: 19 Oct 2024, 22:58 It is reported that 18 are already on the run having deserted and 12,000 troops is only 10 days supply for the Russian meat grinder! N Korea has already lost 8 or 9 officers to a drone or Himars attack. It will be interesting to see how many remain loyal once they find out their fate in Russian hands. It will also be interesting to see how many Mr Kim is willing to send once he finds out how efficient the Russian and Ukrainian militaries are in killing Russian allied troops.
'reported by whom'?
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kenneal - lagger wrote: 19 Oct 2024, 22:58 It is reported that 18 are already on the run having deserted and 12,000 troops is only 10 days supply for the Russian meat grinder!
Where are you getting these numbers from then?
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adam2 wrote: 19 Oct 2024, 08:45
There is also the risk that troops would escape, surrender, or defect, even russia has better living standards than does north korea, Ukraine has MUCH higher living standards, and Western Europe bears no comparison to the standards prevailing in the workers paradise north of the korean border.
I think you meant to say that Russia has much higher living standards than Ukraine.
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No I meant what I said.
Ukraine is generally considered to have higher living standards than does russia. (russia and supporters thereof no doubt take a different view)
Within living memory Ukraine has been previously been under russian control, an era remembered with considerable disfavour, hence the fight to kick out putins forces as most Ukrainians do not wish to return to the privations previously enjoyed under russian rule.
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Mark wrote: 17 Oct 2024, 23:11

You're just sore that you've typed loads of posts on this thread, but not moved the dial at all regarding peoples views on the conflict.
You only comment on this thread, which leads us to believe that you're either Russian, or in the pay of the Russians...
The advice would be to just give up...., but maybe you can't if you're paid per post ?
Luckily I'm not having to continue to lie to myself in order to cope withe the fact that, hey, the Russian military isn't collapsing, its economy is doing fine, the decadent West is declining in power and will, and Ukraine is losing badly. And the fact that by supporting the conflict you're cheering on the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians in your own self interest.

That's a hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance to deal with.
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