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Vortex2 wrote: 27 Jun 2024, 22:12 I haven't visited this site for quite a while.
I'm surprised that people are still discussing the Ukraine situation in an academic manner.
If I didn't live just 1.5 miles from one of the UK's primary nuclear targets, I would be stockpiling food, water etc.
Irrespective of the history etc, we now have the West pushing and pushing and pushing Russia.
They will NOT give in : they will use (initially) tactical nuclear weapons when they feel that they are about to lose.
The US is (initially) fine - they can afford to be belligerent as they are an ocean away.
We have now entered the 'vortex of war' and are probably totally stuffed.
Don't believe that politicians and generals can screw up, despite having access to total power, plenty of money etc?
Just take a look at the Conservatives.
Politicians on all sides saw political and economic advantage in supporting the Ukraine 'war' - which was in fact a poxy regional conflict.
Now of course it has gone tits up, but they believe they can fix it by throwing more US hardware - and soon US bodies into the fire.
Morons to the left of me, morons, to the right of me ...
Welcome back Vortex - and yes: the wilful blindness and failure to understand this situation displayed here day after day is almost incomprehensible.

I can only assume that it’s too difficult to see the world from an adult perspective until the tadpoles have grown some legs and made an effort to get out of the water.

Or that everybody just unquestionably believes what they read in their newspaper of choice.

We seem hell bent on going nuclear over a minor turf war in the country that has the historical capital of Russia.

Why do we have to go to nuclear MAD over this ffs

Powerswitch has degraded into a small group of old men being bemused by world events and quibbling about the weather.

I leave them to get on with it mostly.
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Default0ptions wrote: 27 Jun 2024, 22:25 I leave them to get on with it mostly.
Mostly? Except for the five posts in a row on the previous page. I know there are limits on the number of links per post but five in a row is getting to the stage where you are answering your own posts.

I 'mostly' leave the propagandising to you and your ilk and am happy to see the Russian cemeteries filling up and their arms stores emptying. Of course the NATO taxpayers are suffering a bit too and in the end China will be the winner here.

And then we have your posts on climate...
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Default0ptions wrote: 27 Jun 2024, 22:25 Powerswitch has degraded into a small group of old men being bemused by world events and quibbling about the weather.
Good Lord, sir! I nearly lost a crown reading that!

We've all got to be somewhere talking about something. I like to think of it as retirement home for eccentric amateur scientists and burnt out flag wavers. You don't get the quality of debate anywhere else in my degenerate opinion.
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Some interesting numbers about the state of Russia's coal industry: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/27/7462960/

Employes 650,000 people!
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... nscription
Even before the latest mobilisation drive, more than 20,000 men are believed to have fled the country to avoid service, some of them swimming and drowning in attempting to cross Ukraine’s border into Romania.

In April, Andriy Demchenko, the head of the Ukrainian state border guard service, reported that at least 30 Ukrainian men had died attempting to cross, though the real number is probably much higher, as some bodies are very unlikely ever to be recovered.
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kenneal - lagger wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 23:23 The war to free Ukraine should go on as long as the Ukrainians want it to. It is their country which has been illegally invaded and it is Ukrainian civilians as well as troops who are being murdered by Russians. So we should give them all the support that they need until they tell us that things are done.
Does the fact that Ukraine is having to kidnap men off the street and football matches not tell you anything? Elections cancelled, another opposition party banned - how can you be sure of what the average Ukrainian wants? They are trapped in the country! Also there's no rush of Ukrainians abroad or western supporters returning to fight!

Even Zelensky this week admitted they were running out of time. The sad fact is that there probably aren't many, of the nationalistic type, Who initially joined Up, that are left in one piece. No one else wants to be there.
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https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-17/
We don't have much time. We have a lot of injured, killed, both military and civilians. So we do not want this war to last for years.
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'Powerswitch has degraded into a small group of old men being bemused by world events and quibbling about the weather.'


Sunny here today, a little windy which is keeping the temperature down. The weather was much better when I wer a lad. I see from reading the Sunday Sport that Putin fellow is a bit of a wazzock, he wouldn't get my vote even if he promised gold and riches to all his subjects back in the Fatherland. Anyway, it's Monday, off to church now.
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Increasing reports amongst Russian military bloggers that Russian raw new recruits are finding themselves on the front lines 14 days after signing up. Similarly many reports of seriously wounded soldiers being returned to the front lines whilst still on crutches and in no state to fight.

Ukraine is not the only side with recruitment problems
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Múltiple Ukrainian airfields hit within the last five days or so, and🕳️, of course, plenty of planes destroyed. Seems like Ukraine has no defence for this at the moment...

Apart from that, the great Ukrainian summer retreat continúes unabated. Looks like New York's days are numbered.
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invalid wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 18:35 Múltiple Ukrainian airfields hit within the last five days or so, and🕳️, of course, plenty of planes destroyed. Seems like Ukraine has no defence for this at the moment...

Apart from that, the great Ukrainian summer retreat continúes unabated. Looks like New York's days are numbered.
Just ruining them for the expected F16s perhaps?
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invalid wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 18:35 Múltiple Ukrainian airfields hit within the last five days or so, and🕳️, of course, plenty of planes destroyed. Seems like Ukraine has no defence for this at the moment...

Apart from that, the great Ukrainian summer retreat continúes unabated. Looks like New York's days are numbered.
New York? Explain why. You must have a strange keyboard out where you are as you are typing some weird symbols and accents there.

Maybe they should make some wooden look alike planes like the allies did in WW2. And a few fake power plants while they are at it.
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dustiswhatweare wrote: 30 Jun 2024, 11:19
'Powerswitch has degraded into a small group of old men being bemused by world events and quibbling about the weather.'


Sunny here today, a little windy which is keeping the temperature down.
The wind is blowing the pollen about too.
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Some of Ukraine's best troops wasted on another Zel vanity project.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/07/17/ ... ipro-bank/
788 Ukrainian marines are reported missing in action in Krynky, a village on the occupied east bank of the Dnipro river in Kherson region. An additional 262 fallen Ukrainian troops were evacuated and buried...

Recent reports from Suspilne and Ukrainska Pravda, citing military sources, suggest that Ukrainian troops withdrew from Krynky several weeks ago due to the village’s complete destruction. The Ukrainian General Staff has not officially commented on this withdrawal.
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According to the UK mod, Russia suffered 70,000 troops killed or wounded in May and June alone, a new record and an unsustainable rate even for Putin, although most of them were poorly trained cannon fodder.

This war will be won or lost by the quantity and quality of high tech long range weapons that the US and Europe provides, or not. Not on the front lines, which have become impossible killing zones

The only person who can win this war for Putin is Trump
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