United States Presidential Election 2024

[Mark]

Is there a legal path to him running for president?

Yes. In the US you cannot vote if you are a convicted criminal, but you can run for President.

That's truly bizarre...
Maybe this great constitution which they constantly bang on about needs an update ?

[UndercoverElephant]

When a prisoner ran for president (he was a socialist, convicted for refusing to accept restrictions on free speech during WW1):

https://www.brandeis.edu/now/2023/april ... herty.html

Maybe this great constitution which they constantly bang on about needs an update ?

Trump agrees with you. I rather doubt you would be able to agree on the specifics of the update though.

EDIT: I just checked, and the eligibility of prisoners and people with criminal records to vote in the US varies from state to state, but in most states there are at least some restrictions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_di ... ted_States

[Default0ptions]

This is Biden at the G7. Do you honestly think that he’s actually capable of being in charge of the USA?

And if he isn’t - who is?

https://youtu.be/kqHxSVzOmNI

[clv101]

Beware the propaganda. See this, mentions this G7 clip:
https://popular.info/p/sinclair-floods- ... s-websites

[Default0ptions]

Beware the propaganda. See this, mentions this G7 clip:
https://popular.info/p/sinclair-floods- ... s-websites

Oh come on - it’s not just one clip. There’s no way he’s capable of actually running a country.

The interesting question is, given that Biden is patently incapable, who is actually running the country.

[clv101]

I agree, I think America is mad to make either of these old men president. There are SO many better options. My point is there is a lot of propaganda and misrepresentation going on, so be wary of any video clip you see.

As for who is 'running the county', certainly not the president, never did. He's just one man, the figurehead, there are layers and layers and more layers of advisors, experts, representatives for all branches of the administration continuously around him. I'm reading Garrettt Graff's book, Raven Rock at the moment. Absolutely fascinating, it's all about US 'continuity of government' plans during the Cold War. The mechanisms orbiting around the office of the president was (and still is) just incredible - but it's a joke to suggest the president actually runs the country. He makes very few decisions of consequence, and those decisions he does make are almost always simple choices between two well developed options. It's a bit like those old choose you own adventure books.

[Default0ptions]

I agree, I think America is mad to make either of these old men president. There are SO many better options. My point is there is a lot of propaganda and misrepresentation going on, so be wary of any video clip you see.

As for who is 'running the county', certainly not the president, never did. He's just one man, the figurehead, there are layers and layers and more layers of advisors, experts, representatives for all branches of the administration continuously around him

So it would make no difference if Trump (or anyone else) is elected instead then?

Sir Humphrey in Yes Minister would agree with you, as do I, but that means that democracy is something of a sham.

Which is exactly the point that I was making.

[dustiswhatweare]

Beware the propaganda. See this, mentions this G7 clip:
https://popular.info/p/sinclair-floods- ... s-websites

Oh come on - it’s not just one clip. There’s no way he’s capable of actually running a country.

The interesting question is, given that Biden is patently incapable, who is actually running the country.

You ok Vlad? The thing is, he patently is capable of running a country. Granted he's getting on a bit but senile he is not, a pyscho he is not, an insurrectionist he is not, a common criminal he is not, and best of all, he is not incontinent.
You really are see though matey, no idea why you are still here gobbing off.

* Edit, forgot to mention, Biden isn't a rapist either.

[Default0ptions]

Beware the propaganda. See this, mentions this G7 clip:
https://popular.info/p/sinclair-floods- ... s-websites

Oh come on - it’s not just one clip. There’s no way he’s capable of actually running a country.

The interesting question is, given that Biden is patently incapable, who is actually running the country.

You ok Vlad? The thing is, he patently is capable of running a country. Granted he's getting on a bit but senile he is not, a pyscho he is not, an insurrectionist he is not, a common criminal he is not, and best of all, he is not incontinent.
You really are see though matey, no idea why you are still here gobbing off.

* Edit, forgot to mention, Biden isn't a rapist either.

Really? That’s the best you have to contribute to a serious debate?

“HOW SOCIAL MEDIA IS MAKING YOU STUPID (AND HOW TO AVOID IT)”

“IT CAN ALSO MAKE YOU A DUMB DUMB”

https://www.thisfeelsright.co/blog/how- ... o-avoid-it

Grow up - and learn to use your spell check. It’s ‘through’ not ‘though’.

</sigh>

Do try responding to the content of a post like an adult rather than going for a childish ad hominem.

There are serious doubts about Biden’s mental capacity and recently the Special Counsel Robert Hur found him mentally unfit to stand trial.

“ If Biden is unfit to stand trial, he’s unfit to lead America
His mental decline can no longer be denied, even by his allies. The USA, and the West, deserves better”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/0 ... d-america/

“'Diminished faculties,' 'faulty memory,' 'significant limitations': A damning report on Biden's mental state”

“The [Hur] report cited several reasons for not charging Biden. . . . Biden's obvious memory lapses would make it hard to convict him.“

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/special-c ... -1.7109811

[dustiswhatweare]

There are no serious doubts about Biden's mental capacity beyond that which might be expected at that age. Trump though, a different matter. Try listening to one of his 'speeches', then read the text version of that speech. Jesus, he's totally lost it, inchoherent doesn't come close.

Anyway, you're a Putin troll, it's your job so don't go thinking you're being taken all that seriously. No idea why you are still here, this is a tiny corner of a tiny corner of the internet, so really, your propaganda is not reaching a wide audience. Try harder, somewhere else. You'd go down a storm on the Daily Mail website.

[Default0ptions]

There are no serious doubts about Biden's mental capacity beyond that which might be expected at that age. Trump though, a different matter. Try listening to one of his 'speeches', then read the text version of that speech. Jesus, he's totally lost it, inchoherent doesn't come close.

Anyway, you're a Putin troll, it's your job so don't go thinking you're being taken all that seriously. No idea why you are still here, this is a tiny corner of a tiny corner of the internet, so really, your propaganda is not reaching a wide audience. Try harder, somewhere else. You'd go down a storm on the Daily Mail website.

Well, there are serious doubts about Biden’s mental capacity and recently the Special Counsel Robert Hur found him mentally unfit to stand trial.

“If Biden is unfit to stand trial, he’s unfit to lead America
His mental decline can no longer be denied, even by his allies. The USA, and the West, deserves better”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/0 ... d-america/

“'Diminished faculties,' 'faulty memory,' 'significant limitations': A damning report on Biden's mental state”

“The [Hur] report cited several reasons for not charging Biden. . . . Biden's obvious memory lapses would make it hard to convict him.“


“Putin troll in a tiny corner of a tiny corner of the internet?”

Exactly. Why would a ‘Putin Troll’ bother about you?

I’m just offering a different opinion from you.

It’s worth remembering instances where the ‘official line’ turned out to be false and those who suggested otherwise turned out to be right.


Disinformation?


Hunter Biden Laptop

Congressman Jim Jordan (R-OH) stated in a Facebook post published on 15 December 2022, that "51 former 'intelligence' officials told us the Hunter Biden laptop was disinformation."

"That was false. Turns out, the real disinformation campaign was created by our own government and woke Twitter executives," he added.

Colin Powell Iraq war and WMD


Turned out to be acknowledged nonsense.

“Colin Powell has called his 2003 speech to the United Nations, laying out the Bush administration’s rationale for war in Iraq, a “blot” on his record. The speech set out to detail Iraq’s weapons program, but as the intelligence would later confirm, that program was nonexistent.
More than 13 years later, the speech continues to haunt the administration “

Colin Powell: U.N. Speech "Was a Great Intelligence Failure" | FRONTLINE
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... e-failure/

Colin Powell's presentation to the United Nations Security Council - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_P ... ty_Council

This all turned out to be completely false.

“the facts and Iraq's behavior show that Saddam Hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass destruction ... every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.”


Extraordinary Rendition

Officially denied at the time.

Case study III: extraordinary rendition (Chapter 10) - The ‘War on Terror' and the Framework of International Law
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/ab ... 07E400F3FE#

Yes. It turned out not to be disinformation too.

https://www.justsecurity.org/8930/ssci- ... n-program/

“The SSCI Report and the Right to the Truth about the CIA’s Secret Detention and Extraordinary Rendition Program”

[Forever_Winter]

The presidential debate was amusing, to say the least. Plenty of stuff online from the media sources of your choice. Democrats openly panicking about Bidens performance.

[clv101]

Watched over breakfast, a pitiful performance from both of them. What a farce!

However, muted mics was great! UK needs to do that next time.

[UndercoverElephant]

The whole thing defies belief. A 78 year old pathological liar who was never fit for office in the first place and an 81 year old who is clearly past it. How many 80 year olds are fit to hold high political office? My guess is none.

[dustiswhatweare]

Age limits and psychological testing for anyone who wishes to put themselves forward for public office. Especially psychological testings. Anyone who puts themselves forward in the first place is suspect. Not everyone, but look at what people put up with anywhere, not just here.