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northernmonkey
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UndercoverElephant wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 07:59
invalid wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 00:28 Does anybody believe this war can end while Zelensky remains president of the Ukraine?
Two reasons why that's a silly question. Firstly Zelensky can and may well be replaced by democratic processes. Secondly, Ukraine isn't the one trying to change international borders -- Ukraine's current borders are internationally recognised.
At least 15,000 ethnic Russian men women and children butchered inside of those borders between 2014 and 2022 for the sin of being ethnic Russian.

It is your statements on here that are both silly and obscene. You appear to view the lives of those ethnic Russians in much the same way, it seems, as BritDownUnder views those of the Palestinians.

How very interesting and telling that is.
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NM you are rehashing mis-information that was discussed on this thread many months ago. The number of civilian dead after the 2014 Donbas insurrection was concentrated in the early years. I do not remember the accepted figures. In the years leading up to the 2022 Russian invasion the numbers had fallen almost to zero as the conflict had stagnated. Almost certainly far more ethinic Russian Ukrainians died in the first 5 weeks of the Russian invasion, at the hands of the Russians, than in the previous 5 years.
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UndercoverElephant wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 07:59
invalid wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 00:28
Two reasons why that's a silly question. Firstly Zelensky can and may well be replaced by democratic processes. Secondly, Ukraine isn't the one trying to change international borders -- Ukraine's current borders are internationally recognised.
I don't see any elections.

Whether current borders are recognised 'internationally', also doesn't make any differrence to the actual situation on the ground. There's the map, and the territory. The world order is shifting before out very eyes.
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northernmonkey wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 08:38
UndercoverElephant wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 07:59
invalid wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 00:28 Does anybody believe this war can end while Zelensky remains president of the Ukraine?
Two reasons why that's a silly question. Firstly Zelensky can and may well be replaced by democratic processes. Secondly, Ukraine isn't the one trying to change international borders -- Ukraine's current borders are internationally recognised.
At least 15,000 ethnic Russian men women and children butchered inside of those borders between 2014 and 2022 for the sin of being ethnic Russian.

It is your statements on here that are both silly and obscene. You appear to view the lives of those ethnic Russians in much the same way, it seems, as BritDownUnder views those of the Palestinians.

How very interesting and telling that is.
I object to that. I am more than happy to see Israeli Jews die horrible deaths too. It was after all, at the hands of Jewish terrorists that my fathers cousin was murdered during the British mandate. Be assured I am an equal opportunity hater of manifestly hateful people.

On the subject of the Palestinians they were ones from whose midst were perpetrated the October 7 attacks and after September 11 there was quite literally dancing in the streets of Gaza. It seems some kinds of people are opposed to attacks on their own civilians but are more than happy to sanction attacks on unarmed civilians of other ethnic groups.

Back on topic you really need to read up on the attacks carried out by ethnic Russians during history. Perhaps the Circassian genocide as a start.
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The hypocritical cheek of Mr Z seems to know no bounds. He should examine his own actions before complaining about the Russian response, and, no, we don't want to give him any more aid.
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The is no we
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A shootout in Moscow is underway:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-68642036[url]

Maybe Putin should give more consideration to his domestic matters instead of his Special Military Operation in Ukraine :shock:

Of course, some on this forum would consider this as Fake News :D
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UPDATE:

The gunmen were from the Northern Russian Caucasus....

That is an area of Russia where Putin would not mess with :shock:
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UPDATE:

At least 40 dead in Moscow and 100 injured. Where is Putin? Is he dead? Does he have a body double? Amazing....
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Re: Ukraine Watch...

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Is this a coup in Russia by Northern Caucasus separatists? Is Russia about to collapse? If so, who takes over?? :shock:
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You sound positively thriled
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northernmonkey wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 19:40 You sound positively thriled
No I am not NM. People are dying. This is a terrible situation. These are people wanting to see a rock gig. Something we take for granted in the West...
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northernmonkey wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 19:40 You sound positively thriled
Apparently US intelligence was warning about extremist events. Sounds like Putin is not in control. Russia needs a new leader I guess.
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LOL - Moscow is pointing the finger of blame at Ukraine. No it isn't - Its the Northern Caucasus. They want Putin gone....
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This is a copy of the Manchester Arena bombing playbook. This is really sad....
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