Opinion from New York Times

[Stumuz2]

To repeat, those on the right always want to kick the 'have nots' first and hardest.

If you are referring to the have nots as the third generation of a family that have never worked. Absolutely.

[Mark]

To repeat, those on the right always want to kick the 'have nots' first and hardest.

If you are referring to the have nots as the third generation of a family that have never worked. Absolutely.

Is that the best you can come up with
Try directing your bile at the real criminals stuffing our country.

Pandora Papers: Questions over Tory donations by ex-Russian minister's wife:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58711151
Pandora Papers: Businessman linked to Tory donations made millions from alleged fraud:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58791274

[Stumuz2]

Is that the best you can come up with
Try directing your bile at the real criminals stuffing our country.

No bile, I just object to people who refuse to work in a labour shortage, shortage,scrounging off the backs of others.
You as a good socialist think you know how to spend other peoples money, better than they do

[Mark]

Come on Stumuz, grit your teeth, you can do it....
See it as part of your continuous improvement programme towards becoming a better person...

I've said that that those screwing the benefits system are wrong, and should be dealt with.

Now, after me....,
THE CORRUPT AND TAX EVADING BIG CORPORATIONS, HIGH WEALTH INDIVIDUALS AND TORY DONORS ROBBING THE COUNTRY BLIND ARE WRONG AND SHOULD BE DEALT WITH. THEY ARE FAR WORSE THAN BENEFITS CHEATS DUE TO THE VASTLY DIFFERENT AMOUNTS INVOLVED AND THEREFORE THE PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE FAR GREATER (PRISON).

I dare you

[Mark]

Revealed: how Tory co-chair’s offshore film company indirectly benefited from £121k tax credits:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/o ... ax-credits

[Mark]

Man confronts Rees-Mogg over fit-to-work tests:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-58796343

[Stumuz2]

Come on Stumuz, grit your teeth, you can do it....
See it as part of your continuous improvement programme towards becoming a better person...

I've said that that those screwing the benefits system are wrong, and should be dealt with.

Now, after me....,
THE CORRUPT AND TAX EVADING BIG CORPORATIONS, HIGH WEALTH INDIVIDUALS AND TORY DONORS ROBBING THE COUNTRY BLIND ARE WRONG AND SHOULD BE DEALT WITH. THEY ARE FAR WORSE THAN BENEFITS CHEATS DUE TO THE VASTLY DIFFERENT AMOUNTS INVOLVED AND THEREFORE THE PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE FAR GREATER (PRISON).

I dare you

I will leave it to Lord Clyde who expresses far more succinctly than I can in Ayrshire Pullman Motor Services & D M Ritchie v The Commissioners of Inland Revenue 14 TC 754.

“No man in the country is under the smallest obligation, moral or other, so to arrange his legal relations to his business or property as to enable the Inland Revenue to put the largest possible shovel in his stores.

“The Inland Revenue is not slow, and quite rightly, to take every advantage which is open to it under the Taxing Statutes for the purposes of depleting the taxpayer’s pocket. And the taxpayer is in like manner entitled to be astute to prevent, so far as he honestly can, the depletion of his means by the Inland Revenue.”

[Mark]

No surprise - I knew you couldn't bring yourself do it - can we therefore take it that you think their corrupt actions are 'clever' ?
It's also clear that you object to paying taxes yourself, despite previous denials

REMEMBER, THOSE ON THE RIGHT ALWAYS WANT TO KICK THE 'HAVE NOTS' FIRST AND HARDEST.

[Stumuz2]

No surprise - I knew you couldn't bring yourself do it - can we therefore take it that you think their corrupt actions are 'clever' ?

You are having conversations in your head again. Nothing new.
I believe in the rule of law. The law stated in advance so we can live our lives in accordance with it.
'Corrupt' actions are criminal and will be punished. Or do you mean corrupt in that they offend the collective utopian socialist state of Markdom?

It's also clear that you object to paying taxes yourself, despite previous denials

I paid £126,928 in taxes in the year 2019/2020, it will be something very similar in 20/21.
How much did you pay Mark?

REMEMBER, THOSE ON THE RIGHT ALWAYS WANT TO KICK THE 'HAVE NOTS' FIRST AND HARDEST.

Pointless, platitude. Empty vessels make most noise.

[kenneal - lagger]

I think that the major problem we face is the ability of large corporations to offshore their profits to low tax countries and push up the tax liability of the rest of us. If the likes of the Dodgy Tax Avoider, whose name shall never be mentioned, the Googles and Microshites were to pay a proportionate level of taxation we wouldn't have to quibble about whether Joe Blogs down the road should have a job or not.

[Catweazle]

I think that the major problem we face is the ability of large corporations to offshore their profits to low tax countries and push up the tax liability of the rest of us.

Whole industries full of leeches - Banking, Corporate Law and Accountancy have grown to suck on what is, at the end of the day, the publics blood.

[BritDownUnder]

I paid £126,928 in taxes in the year 2019/2020, it will be something very similar in 20/21.....

That's a serious amount of wedge that has left your grip and gone on God knows what. Clearly, I am in the wrong business. I have never paid over AU$100,000 (half that amount at current exchange rates) for my salaried work working around 3500 hours that year. Australia has a seriously 'progressive' tax system. This year I paid about $28,000 due to taking extensive advantages of tax breaks (for working from home and saving into a pension scheme and equipment costs), in a small part, and in the greater part simply working fewer hours and getting the wife to work more as we are taxed separately.

I actually told the accountant that I wanted to earn less a few years ago and he said that he does not hear that said by his clients very much.
Frankly I dislike working for the benefit of others particularly doing lots of overtime when I could be at home or in the garden making preparations.
I don't agree that my accountant in Australia is a leech. For a cost of $320 he got me a rebate of over $7000 - a twentyfold rate of return. I call that money well spent.

[PS_RalphW]

This year and last I paid no income tax or nic, due to doing very little paid work. This year I expect to pay about £35,000 capital gains, as we are selling the house that has been our biggest income source in recent years. Given that we are heading into stagflation, I am not sure what to do with the cash. In recent decades it would have been enough to see me through to my funeral, now I am not so sure.