"Blue Sky Thinking" about Heathrow

[PS_RalphW]

Will EV autos and trucks not need smooth highways?

These are new or greatly widened roads to fit more cars on to reduce congestion. The existing roads are quite smooth., and EVs run just as well on rough roads as other vehicles

[vtsnowedin]

These are new or greatly widened roads to fit more cars on to reduce congestion. The existing roads are quite smooth., and EVs run just as well on rough roads as other vehicles

Yes but if you have the traffic volume you need the matching capacity. As we move to EVs we will reduce CO2 emissions without necessarily reducing vehicle miles driven so we certainly need to maintain the system we have and make any expansions needed.
If you want to reduce unnecessary building stop issuing permits for suburban Mcmansions on cooky cutter lots.

[fuzzy]

Will EV autos and trucks not need smooth highways?

These are new or greatly widened roads to fit more cars on to reduce congestion. The existing roads are quite smooth., and EVs run just as well on rough roads as other vehicles

I disagree. The roads west of Brum [Shropshire, Worcestershire etc] are often single track potholed dirt roads. It will take a lot of sorting out.
Banning HGVs and prairie tractors from dirt tracks would focus the local pricks.

[Potemkin Villager]

According to the unspeakably petit bourgeois grauniad:-

"The court of appeal had found the government’s approval of the runway was illegal because ministers had failed to take into account the UK’s commitments under the 2015 Paris climate accord, which requires keeping global temperature rise as close to 1.5C as possible. But following arguments by Heathrow’s lawyers, the supreme court found this was not necessary and overturned the judgment."

Oh the wisdom of lawyers and judges!

[PS_RalphW]

SO, just when COvid19 has conclusively proved that the vast majority of business flying is totally unnecessary, and the holiday industry has shrunk to a tiny fraction of its previous size due to travel restrictions, the government is about to support a massive and unnecessary increase in carbon emissions whilst pretending to be leading the world to a carbon free future.

[adam2]

What climate emergency ?
We should be significantly reducing air travel, not expanding airports to encourage even more flying.

[kenneal - lagger]

I agree.

At the moment that runway space won't be required for another year at least according to airlines traffic provisions and they are assuming that air traffic will build back to what is was before covid. Some assumption!! That assumes that we won't have another pandemic before then!! Or an economic collapse which would delay the build for a few years at least. We can only hope.

[adam2]

The recent ruling about the third runway also sends out the message that promises or assurances by "the authorities" are worthless. Simply change the way in which the law is applied such that "no third runway" turns into "a third runway is fine"

No wonder that some anti Heathrow campaigners are calling for violent action. "The legal approach does not work, they simply ignored it and overturned earlier promises"

[Mark]

The recent ruling about the third runway also sends out the message that promises or assurances by "the authorities" are worthless. Simply change the way in which the law is applied such that "no third runway" turns into "a third runway is fine"

No wonder that some anti Heathrow campaigners are calling for violent action. "The legal approach does not work, they simply ignored it and overturned earlier promises"

Government defends plans for noise limit at protests:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56391988

The protesters will need to be very quiet, so as not to disturb all those jet engines.....

[UndercoverElephant]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy08q9d1r2vo

The chancellor has hinted the government would support a third runway at Heathrow Airport, saying "sustainable aviation and economic growth go hand in hand".

Rachel Reeves told the BBC she would not comment on "speculation" and the government would set out its plans in due course.

However, she said a third runway at Heathrow "will mean that instead of circling London, flights can land" and that sustainable fuel was changing the carbon emissions from flying.

Rachel Reeves is a stupid, grinning, lying bitch. This is anti-scientific insanity on a par with young earth creationism.

Labour are going to be destroyed at the next election. This sort of policy will win them no new votes while losing them some of the 22% who are currently supporting them in polls.

[Ralphw2]

The only reason Labour was allowed to win the election, was because the media barons were confident that they would not rock the boat when it came to maintaining the economic status quo, ie, ever increasing inequality between the rich and everyone else.

[Potemkin Villager]

Rachel Reeves is a stupid, grinning, lying bitch. This is anti-scientific insanity on a par with young earth creationism.

That may or may not be true or may just be an emotive way of saying she is an economist!
I don't think the argument is enhanced by calling her a bitch.

[UndercoverElephant]

Rachel Reeves is a stupid, grinning, lying bitch. This is anti-scientific insanity on a par with young earth creationism.

That may or may not be true or may just be an emotive way of saying she is an economist!
I don't think the argument is enhanced by calling her a bitch.

You're right. Some politicians have a way of making me very angry. Anger does not help, but I am not in full control of it. I express that anger in abusive language.