New coronavirus in/from China

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 31 Oct 2020, 10:58

Could ASPIRIN be the first over the counter treatment for coronavirus? Hospitalized patients already taking the drug daily were 47% less likely to die of COVID-19:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... ID-19.html

Half an aspirin a day seems seems a sensible move ?

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 31 Oct 2020, 12:58

A major factor in dying from covid is that it triggers blood clotting, leading to a lot of secondary damage in the heart and brain from mini strokes and blocked arteries. Aspirin thins the blood so at the population level is likely to be beneficial against covid.

I started taking aspirin after I got prostate cancer as it may help prevent recurrence, but had to stop because it made long term bleeding caused by the radio therapy worse.

Post by **adam2** » 31 Oct 2020, 17:33

A new one month long lockdown is expected to be officially announced very shortly, but has already been widely leaked by the media.

In Spain it is reported that a new strain of the coronavirus has been found.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 31 Oct 2020, 18:01

adam2 wrote:A new one month long lockdown is expected to be officially announced very shortly, but has already been widely leaked by the media.

In Spain it is reported that a new strain of the coronavirus has been found.

No mention of a compensation scheme though.

Post by **clv101** » 31 Oct 2020, 19:18

UndercoverElephant wrote:
adam2 wrote:A new one month long lockdown is expected to be officially announced very shortly, but has already been widely leaked by the media.

In Spain it is reported that a new strain of the coronavirus has been found.
No mention of a compensation scheme though.

Furlough scheme to be extended through November.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 31 Oct 2020, 20:24

clv101 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
adam2 wrote:A new one month long lockdown is expected to be officially announced very shortly, but has already been widely leaked by the media.

In Spain it is reported that a new strain of the coronavirus has been found.
No mention of a compensation scheme though.
Furlough scheme to be extended through November.

That is no use to me.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 31 Oct 2020, 22:05

At least I will be able to take the dog for longer walks on the country roads again with less fear of being squashed flat. I expect our morning social dog walks twice round the rec with 4 or 5 other owners will continue, as they did before.

I haven't worked at all since March. I do not expect to get paid work again for years. There will be 50 better applicants for each job and 49 of them will need the money more than me. I have joined the local volunteer driving scheme, but it remains suspended.

We have very little social life to lose, and no close family. I hope our kids mental health won't suffer again, our younger one still hasn't recovered from the last lock down.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 01 Nov 2020, 06:13

No seasonally adjusted increased morbidity nor mortality.

This lock-down is politically and socially indefensible.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 01 Nov 2020, 06:15

Doing my weekly statistic check on Covid I see an eleven percent increase in daily deaths worldwide in a week to 6392/day.
Looking at individual countries there are increases in almost all European countries with those in Eastern Europe being hit especially hard.
I suppose Trump is at fault for this along with all his other failures.

boisdevie · Post by **boisdevie** » 01 Nov 2020, 14:07

vtsnowedin wrote:Doing my weekly statistic check on Covid I see an eleven percent increase in daily deaths worldwide in a week to 6392/day.
Looking at individual countries there are increases in almost all European countries with those in Eastern Europe being hit especially hard.
I suppose Trump is at fault for this along with all his other failures.

Are those deaths WITH Covid or BECAUSE of Covid?

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 01 Nov 2020, 17:00

boisdevie wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Doing my weekly statistic check on Covid I see an eleven percent increase in daily deaths worldwide in a week to 6392/day.
Looking at individual countries there are increases in almost all European countries with those in Eastern Europe being hit especially hard.
I suppose Trump is at fault for this along with all his other failures.
Are those deaths WITH Covid or BECAUSE of Covid?

Those are the Johns-Hopkins university numbers and I believe the feel they are reporting "because of" covid not with. But as they aggregate numbers from all countries it probably varies country to country.
That is a good question and it will probably take months or years to get that distinction sorted out. In the meantime this and perhaps the World-o-meters site are the best sources I have found and they are useful for following changes in the trends.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 01 Nov 2020, 17:39

TOTAL DEATHS, seasonally adjusted, show NO increased morbidity nor mortality here in the UK.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 01 Nov 2020, 17:59

Little John wrote:TOTAL DEATHS, seasonally adjusted, show NO increased morbidity nor mortality here in the UK.

That is not what I see here.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2fpeop ... 22020.xlsx

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 01 Nov 2020, 18:08

but are many batflu inmates bed blocking for months? Are they infecting care staff, squeezing supply? Deaths are not the only possible problem.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 01 Nov 2020, 18:59

vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:TOTAL DEATHS, seasonally adjusted, show NO increased morbidity nor mortality here in the UK.
That is not what I see here.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2fpeop ... 22020.xlsx

Well, then you are looking in the wrong place

TOTAL deaths for this week for 2019 and for 2020

2020 - 10,534

2019 - 10,156

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ndandwales

That's a difference of 54 deaths per day. Which is, basically, statistical noise in a population of nigh on 70 million. Or, put another way, that level of variation from year to year is entirely ordinary and it has varied much more widely than that in just the last 20 years.