Moderator: Peak Moderation
Well eventually they will have a census and they can't count noses that are not above ground. The first indicator I will be interested in will be cell phone use in China next year. Dead people don't pay their cell phone bill and that will show up in the phone companies bottom line.Little John wrote:You can bet it wont and the reason is because the current inaccuracies are based on lies as opposed to mere incompetence.kenneal - lagger wrote:A more accurate figure of deaths due to covid will come out with excess deaths sometime in the future.
On the other hand I see little need for an old fashioned door to door head count in the USA today. All citizens have social security numbers and are ether paying in taxes or receiving benefits. Children have numbers and are being claimed as dependents on their parents tax forms . The unemployed are receiving benefits and medicaid or medicare and your homeless Veterans are veterans and have accounts at the VA. Even immigrant farm workers show up on company tax filings and their children are in school.fuzzy wrote:The UK census is a joke. It is legally binding every 10? years, but Johnny foreigner - sorry, our new citizens - couldn't care less. It has been shown in several ways [food transport, sewage etc] that there are millions uncounted.
Trump's wall must be much more effective than our 20 mile wide Channel then, VT.vtsnowedin wrote:........................
So to go uncounted you have to be a cash only street person non veteran that receives no benefits and holds no job and not be in jail. Too few to worry about.
Our wall v. your chunnel? First stop after crossing into the US is at the hospital to have your anchor baby which is at birth a US citizen and gets a social security number. Then mother and all the children including the ones born before crossing the river/wall can apply for SNAP and medicaid and the school aged children can go to school and get included in their figures. Hubby uses a fake SS number to get a job and even though the IRS might not catch that it is not a real number can at least know someone is here and working.kenneal - lagger wrote:Trump's wall must be much more effective than our 20 mile wide Channel then, VT.vtsnowedin wrote:........................
So to go uncounted you have to be a cash only street person non veteran that receives no benefits and holds no job and not be in jail. Too few to worry about.
Sorry I am missing something here, what is we're catching up with the cubans?Mark wrote:We're catching up with the Cubans....
Coronavirus: Protein treatment trial 'a breakthrough':
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53467022
I posted about what was going on in Cuba with Interferon (alpha 2b), but it was a couple of hundred pages back....Potemkin Villager wrote:Sorry I am missing something here, what is we're catching up with the cubans?Mark wrote:We're catching up with the Cubans....
Coronavirus: Protein treatment trial 'a breakthrough':
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53467022
Lockdown may cost 200,000 lives, government report shows
Research shines a light on the reasons why the Government has been keen to lift lockdown, in spite of experts claiming it happened too soon
More than 200,000 people could die from the impact of lockdown and protecting the NHS, an official government report shows.
As national restrictions were imposed, experts from the Department of Health, the Office of National Statistics (ONS), the government’s Actuary Department and the Home Office forecast the collateral damage from delays to healthcare and the effects of recession arising from the pandemic response.
It estimated that in a reasonable worst case scenario, around 50,000 people would die from coronavirus in the first six months of the pandemic, with mitigation measures in place.
But in the report published in April they calculated that up to 25,000 could die from delays to treatment in the same period and a further 185,000 in the medium to long term - amounting to nearly one million years of life lost.
It comes amid debate over the easing of lockdown restrictions, with some arguing it is both too early to lift the measures and that they should have been imposed earlier, while other politicians have questioned whether the cure is worse than the disease.....
You're always asking for figures, Steve. Now it's your turn to come up with some.Little John wrote:This lockdown has and will continue to shorten the lives of far more than its proponents claim it has saved.
