New coronavirus in/from China

careful_eugene · Post by **careful_eugene** » 04 Jun 2020, 16:02

Has anyone noticed changes in their sleep pattern during lockdown? I haven't but I've been working throughout and am getting up at 5:30 most days to get an hour at the allotment before work. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52911395

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 04 Jun 2020, 16:13

I'm getting to be an old dog that takes a lot of naps so my sleep pattern was a shambles anyway so no it is just as wacky with the lockdowns as before.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 04 Jun 2020, 18:07

kenneal - lagger wrote:Trump must be very relieved by all the rioting as it is taking the heat off his inept handling of the covid outbreak.

Can't claim any special knowledge

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 04 Jun 2020, 18:08

careful_eugene wrote:Has anyone noticed changes in their sleep pattern during lockdown?

Nope.

BritDownUnder · Post by **BritDownUnder** » 04 Jun 2020, 21:10

careful_eugene wrote:Has anyone noticed changes in their sleep pattern during lockdown? I haven't but I've been working throughout and am getting up at 5:30 most days to get an hour at the allotment before work. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52911395

I am going to bed much later due to my fondness for playing the World of Tanks online game.

Post by **clv101** » 04 Jun 2020, 22:26

Here's an interesting study, not directly covid, but they tracked 4 human coronaviruses for 8 years and found:

Conclusions
Coronaviruses are sharply seasonal. They appear, based on serial interval and secondary infection risk, to have similar transmission potential to influenza A(H3N2) in the same population.

https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-ar ... 61/5815743

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 05 Jun 2020, 11:12

Media reports of two small scale studies of victims.

One reports that blood type A+ people are more severely affected, and another says bald pattern men with higher androgen levels may be more affected.

Both were small scale studies, so not definitive.

I am male, balding and group A.

However, it was suggested hormone therapy used for prostate cancer may provide some protection. After 2 1/2 years of hormone therapy I would rather take my chances with the virus.

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 05 Jun 2020, 12:08

Oxford still not giving up;

"
Karl Friston, a neuroscientist at University College London, put it well recently: there is some kind of immunological â€œdark matterâ€� out there stopping the virus from infecting as many of us as had first been feared. No one is quite sure what it is, but it does seem to exist. Sunetra Gupta, Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology at Oxford University has made the same argument: that the virus has followed the same pattern worldwide, irrespective of various lockdown policies. Immunity, she says, is more likely to explain its demise"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... ed-second/

Potemkin Villager · Post by **Potemkin Villager** » 05 Jun 2020, 15:48

Ah of course why didn't I think of that. "Dark Matter" obviously
explains all those unknown unknowns. Silly me.

Mr. Fox · Post by **Mr. Fox** » 05 Jun 2020, 16:05

Friston interviewed (yesterday) here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUOFeVIrOPg

The ['Dark Matter'] headlining... was a very astute editorial move, I'm not sure that it was the most useful from a purely scientific point of view"

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 05 Jun 2020, 22:01

Ha ! I knew it !

Catweazle wrote: I can't help thinking of dark matter.

We observe the universe behaving in a way that makes no sense to us, is irrational, and can only be explained by the existence of something we know nothing about and cannot see.

That's how I feel, that there is something driving things that I'm not privy to.

Or it could be 5G telecom frequency interacting with the chem-trails.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 06 Jun 2020, 00:45

Catweazle wrote:Ha ! I knew it !

Catweazle wrote: I can't help thinking of dark matter.

We observe the universe behaving in a way that makes no sense to us, is irrational, and can only be explained by the existence of something we know nothing about and cannot see.

That's how I feel, that there is something driving things that I'm not privy to.
Or it could be 5G telecom frequency interacting with the chem-trails.

Or more peak oils!!

BritDownUnder · Post by **BritDownUnder** » 06 Jun 2020, 04:17

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
Or more peak oils!!

Sierra oil perhaps?

As the world collectively dances its way to doomsday we see ever diminishing demand peaks.
The religious crowd are very silent right now.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 06 Jun 2020, 06:20

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06 ... m=Facebook

'In the first big research scandal of the COVID-19 era, The Lancet and The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) today retracted two high-profile papers after a company declined to make the underlying data for both available for an independent audit, following questions being raised about the research. The Lancet paper, which claimed an antimalarial drug touted by President Donald Trump for treatment of COVID-19 could cause serious harm without helping patients, had had a global impact, halting trials of one of the drugs by the World Health Organization (WHO) and others.

Three authors on the Lancet paper requested the retraction, after initiating an independent review of the raw hospital patient data summarized and provided by Surgisphere, a small Chicago-based company operated by Sapan Desai, the fourth author of the study. Desai had previously said he and his co-authorsâ€”Harvard Universityâ€™s Mandeep Mehra, Frank Ruschitzka of University Hospital ZÃ¼rich, and Amit Patel, an adjunct faculty member at the University of Utahâ€”were getting such an audit of the data, but the agreement apparently fell apart.'

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 06 Jun 2020, 15:05

BritDownUnder wrote: As the world collectively dances its way to doomsday we see ever diminishing demand peaks.