New coronavirus in/from China

[kenneal - lagger]

.............Yes, yes, of course. We need more surveillance don't we. You are just gagging for it, aren't you. ......

And they'll probably use 5G to do it!!! Horror on horror!!

[adam2]

.............Yes, yes, of course. We need more surveillance don't we. You are just gagging for it, aren't you. ......

And they'll probably use 5G to do it!!! Horror on horror!!

A foolish neighbour was circulating a petition against 5G telephone masts on the grounds that they "fry babies brains"
They did not appreciate my enquiry as whether butter or olive oil was used for this frying.
Lucky to get 3G around here, 5G would be welcomed by me.

[Little John]

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/ ... lse-alarm/

Germany’s federal government and mainstream media are engaged in damage control after a report that challenges the established Corona narrative leaked from the interior ministry.

Some of the report key passages are:

The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.
The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).
Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.
The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.
A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.

So far, so bad. But it gets worse.

The report focuses on the “manifold and heavy consequences of the Corona measures� and warns that these are “grave�.

More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus.

The reason is a scandal in the making...

[clv101]

Much of that is clearly false by looking at excess death statistics, specifically in hospitals and care homes. They would not "would statistically die this year". Also while there will be some deaths due to the response, the vast majority of excess deaths are in hospitals and care homes, while infected with covid. It's just not true to say "More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus".

[Snail]

Looks like coronavirus is now being used as a reason to close local cottage hospitals. They were all emptied and closed in anticipation of a coronavirus surge which never happened. And are remaining empty and closed due to anticipated future surges which will never happen.

https://www.dng24.co.uk/cottage-hospita ... nd-closed/

[clv101]

Looks like coronavirus is now being used as a reason to close local cottage hospitals. They were all emptied and closed in anticipation of a coronavirus surge which never happened.

It's the Millennium bug all over again!

[vtsnowedin]

Much of that is clearly false by looking at excess death statistics, specifically in hospitals and care homes. They would not "would statistically die this year". Also while there will be some deaths due to the response, the vast majority of excess deaths are in hospitals and care homes, while infected with covid. It's just not true to say "More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus".

We can't know if either of those positions is correct until the end of the year and the final figures are released. In fact the excess deaths caused by the close downs will probably stretch out over several years as it takes time for depression, drug use, and alcoholism to kill it's victims and the lockdowns obviously have increased all three.

[clv101]

Much of that is clearly false by looking at excess death statistics, specifically in hospitals and care homes. They would not "would statistically die this year". Also while there will be some deaths due to the response, the vast majority of excess deaths are in hospitals and care homes, while infected with covid. It's just not true to say "More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus".

We can't know if either of those positions is correct until the end of the year and the final figures are released. In fact the excess deaths caused by the close downs will probably stretch out over several years as it takes time for depression, drug use, and alcoholism to kill it's victims and the lockdowns obviously have increased all three.

Indeed, and the reduced deaths from reduced air pollution may end up being the biggest number of the lot.

[Little John]

https://mises.org/power-market/cdc-slas ... -lockdowns

The CDC Slashed the COVID-19 Fatality Rate to a Fraction of Earlier Estimate Used to Justify Lockdowns

In March, the World Health Organization (WHO) was claiming that the fatality rate was a very high 3.4 percent.

Yet as time went on, it became increasingly clear that such high estimates were essentially meaningless because researchers had no idea how many people were actually infected with the disease. Tests were largely being conducted on those with symptoms serious enough to end up in emergency rooms or doctors' offices.

By late April, many researchers were publishing new studies showing that the number of people with the disease was actually much higher than was previously thought. Thus, it became clear that the percentage of people with the disease who died from it suddenly became much smaller.

Now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has released new estimates suggesting that the real fatality rate is around 0.26 percent.

[Little John]

More track and trace surveillance please. We need to be kept "safe".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8CFASK ... ture=share

[Catweazle]

Looks like coronavirus is now being used as a reason to close local cottage hospitals. They were all emptied and closed in anticipation of a coronavirus surge which never happened.

It's the Millennium bug all over again!

That's a good parallel.

Massive efforts went into updating computers so that they could roll over the millennium date without issue. Everything worked as planned, and Joe Public said "see, there was nothing to worry about, it was a hoax...."

[PS_RalphW]

My parents bought a TV on 31/12/1999. When they tried to pay by debit card the transaction failed. The bug in action. They paid by cheque.

[fuzzy]

The often spaced out JW explaing who is trying to sabotage Cummings so that Hunt and Starmer can run the show:

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2020/05/27 ... will-plan/

[kenneal - lagger]

The often spaced out JW explaing who is trying to sabotage Cummings so that Hunt and Starmer can run the show .......

I quite enjoyed the TV clip of Boris telling Hunt, in answer to a question from Hunt, that the government (of the time with Hunt as Health Minister) had not learned the lessons from the SARS epidemic. Hunt didn't come back with a supplementary question for some reason.

[UndercoverElephant]

https://mises.org/power-market/cdc-slas ... -lockdowns

The CDC Slashed the COVID-19 Fatality Rate to a Fraction of Earlier Estimate Used to Justify Lockdowns

In March, the World Health Organization (WHO) was claiming that the fatality rate was a very high 3.4 percent.

Yet as time went on, it became increasingly clear that such high estimates were essentially meaningless because researchers had no idea how many people were actually infected with the disease. Tests were largely being conducted on those with symptoms serious enough to end up in emergency rooms or doctors' offices.

By late April, many researchers were publishing new studies showing that the number of people with the disease was actually much higher than was previously thought. Thus, it became clear that the percentage of people with the disease who died from it suddenly became much smaller.

Now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has released new estimates suggesting that the real fatality rate is around 0.26 percent.

Erm. I was saying this six weeks ago.