Moderator: Peak Moderation
All your hatred will make you ill!Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:And, being Clinically Vulnerable, I'll keep to myself, and away from everyone else, rather than blindly trust and compromise my phone to some bunch of Vote Leave Scumbag Cyber Crims on a lucrative uncontested Cabinet Office contract.
Hatred? Despising opportunist criminals? And you equate that with racism and mysogony?stumuz1 wrote:All your hatred will make you ill!Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:And, being Clinically Vulnerable, I'll keep to myself, and away from everyone else, rather than blindly trust and compromise my phone to some bunch of Vote Leave Scumbag Cyber Crims on a lucrative uncontested Cabinet Office contract.
Imagine if your hatred was directed at black people, or women maybe. You would be a joy to hang around with. Not.
Explain, in terms, how Cummings is an "opportunist criminal". I ask this with no particular axe to grind vis a vis Cummings. But, you are making the claim. Substantiate it please.Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:Hatred? Despising opportunist criminals? And you equate that with racism and mysogony?stumuz1 wrote:All your hatred will make you ill!Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:And, being Clinically Vulnerable, I'll keep to myself, and away from everyone else, rather than blindly trust and compromise my phone to some bunch of Vote Leave Scumbag Cyber Crims on a lucrative uncontested Cabinet Office contract.
Imagine if your hatred was directed at black people, or women maybe. You would be a joy to hang around with. Not.
As from right now, consider me gone.
Cummings isn't a public servant. He is an adviser and employee for Baz. The fact that a lot of biased people want him to fail is not subtle.Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:A public servant, currently under investigation by the Police for a criminal offence, was just allowed to give a press conference to explain his actions and potentially prejudice a prosecution. Truth Twisting indeed. No civil servant would be permitted to do that.
A vision check, as mandated by the DVLA, for starters.
They both broke the rules of the lock-down. In what way did Cummings break the rules of the lock-down? I mean, if you can show that he did, then I am happy to accept that. But, I have yet to see, here or anywhere else, anything other than a lot of hysteria from the usual quarters. Do you know and understand the rules of the lock-down as they applied at the time of Cumming's trip? If you do, then you should be able to explicitly show, very easily, where he broke the rules...right?Mark wrote:Dr Catherine Calderwood, Scotland's CMO resigned after making two trips to her second home during the coronavirus lockdown.
Neil Ferguson broke the lockdown to meet his married lover and resigned.
Dominic Cummings - why different ?
Classic case of 'do as I say, not as I do' and the arrogance of power and entitlement...
Yes, very easily.Little John wrote:They both broke the rules of the lock-down. In what way did Cummings break the rules of the lock-down? I mean, if you can show that he did, then I am happy to accept that. But, I have yet to see, here or anywhere else, anything other than a lot of hysteria from the usual quarters. Do you know and understand the rules of the lock-down as they applied at the time of Cumming's trip? If you do, then you should be able to explicitly show, very easily, where he broke the rules...right?Mark wrote:Dr Catherine Calderwood, Scotland's CMO resigned after making two trips to her second home during the coronavirus lockdown.
Neil Ferguson broke the lockdown to meet his married lover and resigned.
Dominic Cummings - why different ?
Classic case of 'do as I say, not as I do' and the arrogance of power and entitlement...
Cumming has stated he drove before developing symptoms. Do you have evidence that is not true. If you don't, then your assertion is just that. An assertion. Which means it is irrelevant.Mark wrote:
Yes, very easily.
We were all supposed to 'Stay Home, Safe Safe'
He drove from London to Durham knowing he was highly infected. He could have broken down at any time on that journey and infected any rescue workers.
Again, an assertion. No proof = irrelevantHe said he didn't stop for fuel - we'll have to take his word for that - maybe he was lucky to be fully fueled ?
Yes we were and are permitted to meet family members on unavoidable and essential matters. Cummings has stated he had to travel north in search of childcare from Cummings’s sister and nieces at the property owned by his parents.We weren't permitted to meet family members who don't live in your home.
He's gone to visit his parents and apparently his sister/nieces too ?
No it does not. Not if he was not breaking any specific rule or regulationWe were allowed one form of exercise a day, but not allowed to drive to it.
He could have walked round his farm, but he chose to drive 30 miles to sit by a river. If he was 'testing his eyes', that raises even more questions.
I have no 'evidence' other than from his own highly prepared statement.Little John wrote:Cumming has stated he drove before developing symptoms. Do you have evidence that is not true. If you don't, then your assertion is just that. An assertion. Which means it is irrelevant.
You would argue black is white if it suits you."I was worried that if my wife and I were both seriously ill we had no reasonable childcare options in London."
He said he then ran home to be with his wife – he said she might have had COVID, but did not have a fever or cough. He also felt it was highly likely he had contracted the disease having been in close contact with the PM and others who developed symptoms.
He said he was worried "this situation would get worse", and "I was worried about the possibility of leaving my wife and child at home all day and often into the night while I worked in Number 10".
He said: "I thought the best thing to do was to drive to an isolated cottage on my father's farm".
I'm not going to get into a nit-picking loophole contest with you, my "common man" interpretation is that if something is illegal, like breaking health protection regulations, it is against the law.stumuz1 wrote:Found the specific criminal offence yet?Catweazle wrote:I'm not sure I'm safe to drive, so I'll take my wife and child out for a road trip to find out....
Cobblers.
Little John wrote:By Cummings’s own account, several media claims about what he supposedly did in the 14 days at the end of March and in early April, were false. With his wife sick with what looked like Covid19, leaving her almost unable to care for their child, with Cummings himself likely to go down with the virus and hounded within his London house by a hostile and threatening public, he drove his wife and son to a house on his parents’ farm in Durham to isolate there, with his sister and other family members leaving food on the doorstep.
Meanwhile all of the usual suspects are making all of the usual hyperbolic hyperventilating noises.
Do none of you realize how pathetic this all looks to most ordinary people?
eatyourveg wrote:Hey LJ, you are tripping aren't you?Little John wrote:By Cummings’s own account, several media claims about what he supposedly did in the 14 days at the end of March and in early April, were false. With his wife sick with what looked like Covid19, leaving her almost unable to care for their child, with Cummings himself likely to go down with the virus and hounded within his London house by a hostile and threatening public, he drove his wife and son to a house on his parents’ farm in Durham to isolate there, with his sister and other family members leaving food on the doorstep.
Meanwhile all of the usual suspects are making all of the usual hyperbolic hyperventilating noises.
Do none of you realize how pathetic this all looks to most ordinary people?
