New coronavirus in/from China

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 05 May 2020, 21:05

In case of a misunderstanding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVs5AyjzwRM

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 05 May 2020, 21:05

kenneal - lagger wrote:Meanwhile, a poll of Britons suggests that four out of five are against opening up at least the school and social side of the lockdown.
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I notice the actual question was should they open it up THIS WEEK. You might get a different answer if you asked them When to open what up.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 05 May 2020, 21:08

fuzzy wrote:In case of a misunderstanding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVs5AyjzwRM

I've seen it and already shared it. Nice skewer of the leadership and well done.

Post by **clv101** » 05 May 2020, 21:50

Seems NYC doctors have seen the same novel effect in children the NHS highlighted last week:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/m ... s/2399514/

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 05 May 2020, 22:27

The Coronavirus Has Mutated and Appears To Be More Contagious Now, New Study Finds

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronav ... s/2403374/

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 05 May 2020, 22:31

Government scientist Neil Ferguson resigns after breaking lockdown rules to meet his married lover

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... -breaking/

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 06 May 2020, 11:21

Neil Ferguson, the scientist who convinced Boris Johnson of UK coronavirus lockdown, criticised in past for flawed research

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... riticised/

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 06 May 2020, 11:54

Vortex2 wrote:Government scientist Neil Ferguson resigns after breaking lockdown rules to meet his married lover

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... -breaking/

Walked straight into a honeytrap set by Oxford modellers

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 06 May 2020, 12:24

Bounce Back Loan arrived in my account - in just two days!

Quite impressed .. just 10 minutes filling out a very simple web form and rather a lot of money arrives in my account within two days.

By the end of this nonsense my little firm will have received tens of thousands from the government ... and this is being repeated all over the country.

The final bill to the state will be substantial.

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 06 May 2020, 12:30

Vortex2 wrote:Bounce Back Loan arrived in my account - in just two days!

Quite impressed .. just 10 minutes filling out a very simple web form and rather a lot of money arrives in my account within two days.

By the end of this nonsense my little firm will have received tens of thousands from the government ... and this is being repeated all over the country.

The final bill to the state will be substantial.

Plenty where that fiat currency came from!

I'm looking at my collection of Zimbabwe dollars on the office wall. I have the 50 billion, 100 billion AND ........... The 100 TRILLION NOTE!

It's worth 40P BTW

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 06 May 2020, 12:34

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... egUIARCyAg

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 06 May 2020, 12:52

stumuz1 wrote:https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... egUIARCyAg

URL inflation that matches currency inflation!

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 06 May 2020, 12:54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cB_DEbXrhE

bursting hysteria bubbles

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 06 May 2020, 13:58

Vortex2 wrote:The Coronavirus Has Mutated and Appears To Be More Contagious Now, New Study Finds

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronav ... s/2403374/

So, as is the case with previous pandemics, different strains emerge. All the more reason, then, given the strain that we already knew was only dangerous to the old and already sick, that we allowed the young and fit to get it, recover and develop, at the very least, partial immunity to any other strain. As it is, this new strain appears, for the moment, to be merely more contagious and not more lethal.

That will very probably change. If it does and if the change involves a more lethal strain before herd immunity has been achieved with any less lethal strain, there could be a massacre of the young and fit as well as the old and already sick.

Just like 1918.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 06 May 2020, 15:00

What I took from fuzzy's contribution was that lower density areas have less covid-19 and deaths than high density areas such as London and New York. What you are doing with a lockdown is artificially producing low density areas. Also the Professor is putting a lot of weight on serology tests which are known to be highly unreliable, ergo his stats are highly unreliable as are his conclusions.

What we know from Spanish flu is that there was a second wave which produced even greater mortality and affected a greater proportion of the population than the first wave and this despite the fact that there was widespread contact among the population with people who had the disease in the first wave. That would suggest that there was not much immunity established in the first wave. So, to protect the NHS from being overwhelmed and even more staff dying perhaps we should head government advise and stay locked down until they let us out and when they lock us up again, and they are almost certain to, we should head their advise again.