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eatyourveg wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:Do you think that the government will repeat the business grants if lockdowns persist?

Could we expect another tranche in three months time?

If not I may give up my office lease.

I hope they do, just got mine and it's necessary and welcome. Going to be a tough winter whatever happens.
It doesn't help when the banks ignore all emails & letters and can't be reached by phone.

They also lie in their grant availability / eligibility etc info on the web.
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So what will happen if we lift the lockdown and then two weeks later it all starts up again???
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Vortex2 wrote:So what will happen if we lift the lockdown and then two weeks later it all starts up again???
Now THAT will be the cool part! And a real multi-seaon pandemic, rather than a more limited one.

Ignore advice from appropriate experts at your peril!!! :)
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ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:So what will happen if we lift the lockdown and then two weeks later it all starts up again???
Now THAT will be the cool part! And a real multi-seaon pandemic, rather than a more limited one.

Ignore advice from appropriate experts at your peril!!! :)
Cool?

More like a total pain in the arse.
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Vortex2 wrote:So what will happen if we lift the lockdown and then two weeks later it all starts up again???
We shall inevitably find out. Being in a vulnerable group will mean living a very different life from those out and about, unless of course one has a wish to play Russian Roulette.
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eatyourveg wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:So what will happen if we lift the lockdown and then two weeks later it all starts up again???
We shall inevitably find out. Being in a vulnerable group will mean living a very different life from those out and about, unless of course one has a wish to play Russian Roulette.
Even those in a 'safe' group shouldn't aim to catch this bug.
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Vortex2 wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:So what will happen if we lift the lockdown and then two weeks later it all starts up again???
Now THAT will be the cool part! And a real multi-seaon pandemic, rather than a more limited one.

Ignore advice from appropriate experts at your peril!!! :)
Cool?

More like a total pain in the arse.
Depends on whether or not it is the mechanism that has all the family together for possibly the last time. Sort of like an extended Christmas holiday, except it goes on for months!

I am a bit irritated that I can't be driving around the country, but I'll trade that for the entire family being here together. Particularly in the 17cm of new snow we have today. Love spring here.
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The UK peak is maybe 10 days out according to HMG.

My graphs suggest 30k reported deaths by that point.

Assuming a symmetric decline down the other side, we are looking at 60k deaths for this wave,

In fact maybe scale it up by x1.5 or x2 to allow for care homes and home deaths.

So 100k deaths per wave .. a non-trivial number.

And that's not even noting the permanent lung, liver, kidney etc damage that this bug can cause.
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ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:Depends on whether or not it is the mechanism that has all the family together for possibly the last time. Sort of like an extended Christmas holiday, except it goes on for months!

I am a bit irritated that I can't be driving around the country, but I'll trade that for the entire family being here together. Particularly in the 17cm of new snow we have today. Love spring here.
I guess there are lots of different ways to experience lock-down.
Looking out on your idyllic Spring views or roaming the grounds with your family doting on your every word of wisdom is one way....
Being cooped up in an inner city tower block or being a front line healthcare worker, or being on the streets in Ecuador would be other ways...
Not being able to drive round must be a real 'bummer'.
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I know of no one that advocates a complete end to the lockdowns. The football fans will have to wait for their chance to brawl over the home teems loss.
What will happen, because it has to, is a gradual easing letting people go about their business while practicing social distancing and wearing masks where needed along with changes in how we do things. The biggest hits will come to the entertainment and travel industries as much of it is non essential and we will not go back to being packed into planes like sardines or stand in long lines at a theme park to ride a roller coaster.
Las Vegas may well return to being an empty desert which will be fine with the rattle snakes and jack rabbits.
Restaurants if they exist at all will have floor to ceiling booths of pexiglass and servers will wear PPE and change it between customers. That will be too costly for many of us, myself included, so my home cooking skills will improve.
They have to attack this on both sides at once, not letting down distancing and other medical defenses while at the same time getting the economy or at least the greater part of it going again. It is not an either/ or argument it is how do we do both.
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Vortex2 wrote:Do you think that the government will repeat the business grants if lockdowns persist?

Could we expect another tranche in three months time?

If not I may give up my office lease.
We've heard that two tenants have given notice on the units in our managed workspace building (50 units in total). There is a waiting list and it's always full so it will be interesting to see if the units stay empty (or indeed if more people leave).
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Mark wrote: I guess there are lots of different ways to experience lock-down.
Looking out on your idyllic Spring views or roaming the grounds with your family doting on your every word of wisdom is one way....
The old man who gets giggled at by the younglings for not appreciating RuPaul shows just proves the entire familiarity breeds contempt concept. Wisdom...right....my research is done outside the family context. And if I dare mention what wonderful hunting weather this was when I was young generates squeals of disgust from the vegan, claims of "how dare someone want to shoot Bamby!" and the like.

Gotta love the little buggers though!
Mark wrote: Being cooped up in an inner city tower block or being a front line healthcare worker, or being on the streets in Ecuador would be other ways...
Not being able to drive round must be a real 'bummer'.
We all have our hobbys, regardless of where we live. There is no more requirement that you like mine any more than I would like yours. Handgun and rifle timed events in competition probably not on your favorites list! :)

Maybe board games at the dinner table? Nice and safe and locked in the house fun for the entire family! :)
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Bedrock Barney wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:Do you think that the government will repeat the business grants if lockdowns persist?

Could we expect another tranche in three months time?

If not I may give up my office lease.
We've heard that two tenants have given notice on the units in our managed workspace building (50 units in total). There is a waiting list and it's always full so it will be interesting to see if the units stay empty (or indeed if more people leave).
I collected my mail server PC from my office last week... something didn't seem right ... then I realised that several of the car park space "Reserved for Company x" signs had gone.

There is a 50% chance that I may be leaving too in the next week or two.
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Vortex2 wrote: I collected my mail server PC from my office last week... something didn't seem right ... then I realised that several of the car park space "Reserved for Company x" signs had gone.

There is a 50% chance that I may be leaving too in the next week or two.
You could ask if you could take your very own sign, to put it on your driveway...
When you're dealing with exponential growth, the time to act is when it feels too early.
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adam2 wrote:Going well in parts of the USA !

Note the carefully observed social distancing at the demonstration. One woman remarked upon the "need to get her hair done"
The displaying of confederate flags was interesting.

"You may be a redneck if you are hanging on to confederate money because you believe that the South will rise again"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us- ... home-order
What horrible weather! That kind of weather only exists in my nightmares now.
G'Day cobber!
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