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Mark wrote:
boisdevie wrote:
Mark wrote:You didn't like the idea of a low carbon transition - that's fine
What do you want to see happen ?
I don't have any view as to what I want to see happen because I have no control over what will happen. I just have to prepare myself to weather whatever storms the future brings. I am not at all optimistic.
That's very fatalistic.
To a certain extent you have control over your own situation and can stack the odds in your favour.
If you can't see your career/job returning to normal anytime soon, then better to make some changes, rather than just hunkering down and hoping for better times ?
Totally agree. However the majority of people don't / can't control the direction of their lives. Think Educating Rita.

For example my son is a club entertainer. Lock-down arrives : he is now making more money from his apartment doing on-line shows for rich people.

Most people don't have that sort of creativity or flexibility.
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Vortex2 wrote:Could this happen here?

These Photos Show the Staggering Food Bank Lines Across America

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/0 ... s-america/
Very sad to see people lining up for food. My sympathy is somewhat lessened when I see people in new cars lining up for food. I guess even food lines can be made drive-through.

I wonder if the yellow sports car owner was feeling any bit self conscious at all when they got their food.

I did not qualify for a government handout but childcare in Australia is now free which saves me $900 per month. I did get a Bank of Dad handout somewhat larger than that as he can no longer go on holidays.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
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ReserveGrowthRulz wrote: No such luck here.
Ineligible? Delayed?

BTW are these payments one-offs or monthly?
A one off under the current bill but another bill is in the works and if the lock downs get extended past May first will probably come at least once more.
So generous of the US government to give you money from your grandchildren.
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Vortex2 wrote:
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vtsnowedin wrote::lol: My $2400 check just showed up in my bank account. I feel so stimulated!!
No such luck here.
Ineligible? Delayed?

BTW are these payments one-offs or monthly?
Ineligible. One off's.
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China kills us & our economy then buys us ...

I saw somewhere this week that China aims to buy up loads of distressed firms in Europe.

If true, that would be annoying.
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BritDownUnder wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:Could this happen here?

These Photos Show the Staggering Food Bank Lines Across America

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/0 ... s-america/
Very sad to see people lining up for food. My sympathy is somewhat lessened when I see people in new cars lining up for food. I guess even food lines can be made drive-through.

I wonder if the yellow sports car owner was feeling any bit self conscious at all when they got their food.

I did not qualify for a government handout but childcare in Australia is now free which saves me $900 per month. I did get a Bank of Dad handout somewhat larger than that as he can no longer go on holidays.
" America is the only country in the world that ever went to the poor house in an automobile"( Will Rogers back in the 1930's great depression).
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ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote: No such luck here.
Ineligible? Delayed?

BTW are these payments one-offs or monthly?
Ineligible. One off's.
Just as well Americans don't know how much these horrible socialist European countries are paying most (not all) people adversely affected by the crisis.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ay-sources

No shit, Sherlock.
No exit strategy.
Insufficient testing.
Not a f***ing clue.
I'm being held under virtual house arrest by a bunch of sociopathic morons.
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boisdevie wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ay-sources

No shit, Sherlock.
No exit strategy.
Insufficient testing.
Not a f***ing clue.
I'm being held under virtual house arrest by a bunch of sociopathic morons.
Yes, all true. Thus we must out think these people, there will be a relatively sunny upland to be found after all this. The way we have been living is no way to have been living. HMG won't do it, thinking caps must be donned.
"Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools". Douglas Bader.
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There is no exit from this other than an evolutionary one and even that is not going to be all that people would wish of it.

That's the way it is and humans are just going to have to come to terms with it.

We are from the mud and the mud is reminding us of it. That's all.
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vtsnowedin wrote: " America is the only country in the world that ever went to the poor house in an automobile"( Will Rogers back in the 1930's great depression).
I had heard of that quote - not the author - but didn't think to mention it. This time people are going to the poor house in new automobiles not the jalopies of the past. Perhaps a measure of the speed of the crisis.
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Sure, unless they just antibody test anyone who asks for one.
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I cant see what all the noise and fury is about a test to see if someone currently has the virus. All that does is provide a momentary snapshot. A person could go on to contract the virus 5 minutes after the test. So, what value has such a test got in terms of managing this virus?

The only test that would have any value is an antibody test that shows if some has already had the virus and has immunity.
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