What guns to buy? and related posts.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 11 Apr 2020, 15:28

vtsnowedin wrote: In recent years I haven't done much beyond load a couple of boxes for hunting each year but it used to be my goto hobby. With the stay at home orders it is something to do better then annoy the Missis.

My stepfather is a reloader.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 11 Apr 2020, 16:26

vtsnowedin wrote:..................... With the stay at home orders it is something to do better then annoy the Missis.

Does that imply that you do your hobby and then annoy the Missis or you do your hobby rather than annoying the Missis, VT?

Have I got anything better to do than pick you up on grammar/spelling? Probably not at the moment!!

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 11 Apr 2020, 17:17

kenneal - lagger wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:..................... With the stay at home orders it is something to do better then annoy the Missis.
Does that imply that you do your hobby and then annoy the Missis or you do your hobby rather than annoying the Missis, VT?

Have I got anything better to do than pick you up on grammar/spelling? Probably not at the moment!!

Well yes "rather then" would have been more precise but in common usage unnecessary. I remember arguing with an English teacher that the phrase "I was not a little bit annoyed" only eliminated one possibility while he insisted that everyone "knew" that it meant you were vary annoyed.
teacher trumps student of course or at least it was that way back in 1968.
Perhaps a comma after to do. would clarify as well.
Along that line I remember where the placement of a comma in a specification made a $50,000 difference in the payment owed the contractor.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 11 Apr 2020, 17:20

And Ken it is better to nit pick my grammar then it is to annoy your own Missis.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 11 Apr 2020, 20:19

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:I want this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF9X559sgWs
Why?

It's a nice example of technology.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 11 Apr 2020, 20:22

vtsnowedin wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:I want this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF9X559sgWs
You have any place with enough open range to shoot it? I don't know why everybody is so enamored or the 6.5 Creedmore. If the barrels are made to the same standard and bedded properly the Creedmore can do nothing the 308 or even a 270 Winchester can't do.

Many many years ago I used to shoot on military ranges.

I was reasonably good at long range shooting .. although nowadays I would blow my foot off!

That gun would have made my day!

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 14 Apr 2020, 17:20

Vortex2 wrote:I was reasonably good at long range shooting .. although nowadays I would blow my foot off!

Careful, in Miami they'll gun you down for your shoes....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52271936

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 14 Apr 2020, 17:25

Mark wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:I was reasonably good at long range shooting .. although nowadays I would blow my foot off!
Careful, in Miami they'll gun you down for your shoes....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52271936

Well at least the cops came and sorted it out and arrested the suspects. No can't see the "travelers" problem here.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 14 Apr 2020, 17:41

vtsnowedin wrote:
Mark wrote:Careful, in Miami they'll gun you down for your shoes....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52271936
Well at least the cops came and sorted it out and arrested the suspects. No can't see the "travelers" problem here.

At least 15,292 people were fatally shot in US in 2019, excluding suicides
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

Regarding the 'traveler' problem, I guess you mean the (unarmed) PC run over and dragged along under the car by an (unarmed) traveler who had just committed a burglary ?
Totally tragic, I agree, but not prevented/solved if they both had guns.
It's a very rare occurrence for a Police Office to die on duty.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 15 Apr 2020, 00:47

Mark wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:I was reasonably good at long range shooting .. although nowadays I would blow my foot off!
Careful, in Miami they'll gun you down for your shoes....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52271936

Stay away from Miami.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 15 Apr 2020, 01:00

Mark wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Mark wrote:Careful, in Miami they'll gun you down for your shoes....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52271936
Well at least the cops came and sorted it out and arrested the suspects. No can't see the "travelers" problem here.
At least 15,292 people were fatally shot in US in 2019, excluding suicides
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

Regarding the 'traveler' problem, I guess you mean the (unarmed) PC run over and dragged along under the car by an (unarmed) traveler who had just committed a burglary ?
Totally tragic, I agree, but not prevented/solved if they both had guns.
It's a very rare occurrence for a Police Office to die on duty.

If they don't go in and police where the crimes are is it really a good thing to say well none of the cops died on the job?

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 15 Apr 2020, 01:02

Mark wrote: At least 15,292 people were fatally shot in US in 2019, excluding suicides
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

And guns apparently stopped 2.5 million crimes a year.

Imagine that, honest non-sheeple folk with guns protect people!

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 15 Apr 2020, 01:04

The conditioning was put there to make the governments life easier, not the sheeples life tougher!

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 15 Apr 2020, 11:03

Now, I know that RGRis just playing with us.

This quote, from the article RGR linked to:

"A little after 1:00 a.m. on Saturday morning, August 17, police arrived at Fat Boys Bar & Grill to respond to a shooting. A customer had threatened other patrons, prompting the establishmentâ€™s security to forcibly remove him. Enraged at being kicked out, he declared he was going to get a gun â€œand shoot the place up.â€�
This very angry (and possibly intoxicated) man then busted the window out of a friendâ€™s car in the parking lot, grabbed a .40 caliber handgun from inside the car, and began firing in the air. In the meantime, Ben McCoy, a man who witnessed all of this from inside his own vehicle, happened to have his rifle with him. Before he could use it, he was shot four times by the man wielding the .40 caliber handgun, who then fled into the woods.
Fortunately, despite being hit in the chest, stomach, left arm and right thigh, McCoy is recuperating, and the assailant was quickly apprehended. No one was killed, but the situation would likely have been tragically different if Ben McCoy and his rifle hadnâ€™t distracted the gunman."

The irony is Magnum sized.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 15 Apr 2020, 12:13

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:And guns apparently stopped 2.5 million crimes a year.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... y-country/
US Crime Index - 46.73
UK Crime Index - 43.64

Guns don't stop any crime.
Gun ownership is the problem, not the solution.