New coronavirus in/from China

[Little John]

A great weight on my/our shoulders

I'm feeling overloaded at the moment.

Our analysis here suggests that we are just in the first wave of doom with repeated waves ... or a permanent lockdown ... being needed until a vaccine or medication arrives.

Meanwhile 90%+ of the population seem to believe that all will be back to normal in three or four weeks.

The majority of the population also seems to have no idea of the economic problems, supply chain issues and even food supply issues we will be facing.

Does anyone else feel burdened by possibly being more aware of the true situation than the majority of people out there?

I used to. That is to say, I have been through the various stages of grief.

One the one hand, I will always get angry about the piss that is perennially taken out of the poor in this country. That is just an instinctive, visceral thing. But, as for anything else, no, I am long since past deluding myself that the future is anything but a Long Emergency leading to the eventual demise of industrial civilization as sure as night follows day. With that in mind, there is little point in becoming overwhelmed. Either way, it's coming.

As for my personal responses on behalf of myself and my kin, I just crack on and deal with life as it comes. There is nothing else for it. As for others, I do right by them where I am able and don't where I am not.

Life goes on.

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Does anyone else feel burdened by possibly being more aware of the true situation than the majority of people out there?

Yeah... Since the 20th of January.

But best to chill.

Realised a little later, mentioned here - still in good time to buy the clippers - no haircuts! You going Hippie or Skinhead? I'm going ZZ Top with a summer cut, home-sewn facemask with HEPA filter, cheap sunglasses and a baseball cap to hide the botched trim, planned for tomorrow. My local Constabulary will really hate that incognito look as I flagrantly cruise the Non Essential Aisle after picking up the dog food and Hovis.

[adam2]

A government announcement quoted on tonight's TV news stated that people can leave their homes to take exercise, WITHOUT ANY TIME LIMIT.
Looks like another defeat for the police and their invented one hour limit.

After the earlier announcement that people ARE allowed to use their gardens, and that they CAN buy anything that is for sale in shops that remain open.

[Vortex2]

A government announcement quoted on tonight's TV news stated that people can leave their homes to take exercise, WITHOUT ANY TIME LIMIT.
Looks like another defeat for the police and their invented one hour limit.

After the earlier announcement that people ARE allowed to use their gardens, and that they CAN buy anything that is for sale in shops that remain open.

They realise they can't enforce the exercise rules ... and they can't make people in gardenless flats etc to stay in.

Maybe they will however enforce the separation rules?

[clv101]

A great weight on my/our shoulders

I'm feeling overloaded at the moment.

Our analysis here suggests that we are just in the first wave of doom with repeated waves ... or a permanent lockdown ... being needed until a vaccine or medication arrives.

Meanwhile 90%+ of the population seem to believe that all will be back to normal in three or four weeks.

The majority of the population also seems to have no idea of the economic problems, supply chain issues and even food supply issues we will be facing.

Does anyone else feel burdened by possibly being more aware of the true situation than the majority of people out there?

Hang on, I see little evidence for 'multiple waves'. The trajectory most fairly wealthy countries are on is to lock down for a few months, get community spread down to the tens of genuine cases, then keep a lid on it through lots of testing, contact tracing and quarantine.

The health emergency, at least in Europe, I'd likely to be over by the autumn.

However, the economic shock is incredible. I don't think we'll ever pump as much oil again for example. The virus *may* become endemic in some poorer parts of the world where the luxury of lock down / self-isolation isn't available. This seriously diminishes the viability of globalisation. The world has changed - BUT, remember, we all knew the current situation was unsustainable. We just weren't clear on the mechanism and timing of the rupture. Now we know, viral pandemic in 2020. Hardly a surprise as it's been sitting atop National Risk Registers for years.

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Check out the well deserved backlash they got on twitter.

While there are more idiot BBQs, house parties and cricket matches they still need to break up.

https://twitter.com/CambridgeCops/statu ... 7394293760

https://twitter.com/CambridgeCops/statu ... 8534601728

[Vortex2]

A great weight on my/our shoulders

I'm feeling overloaded at the moment.

Our analysis here suggests that we are just in the first wave of doom with repeated waves ... or a permanent lockdown ... being needed until a vaccine or medication arrives.

Meanwhile 90%+ of the population seem to believe that all will be back to normal in three or four weeks.

The majority of the population also seems to have no idea of the economic problems, supply chain issues and even food supply issues we will be facing.

Does anyone else feel burdened by possibly being more aware of the true situation than the majority of people out there?

Hang on, I see little evidence for 'multiple waves'. The trajectory most fairly wealthy countries are on is to lock down for a few months, get community spread down to the tens of genuine cases, then keep a lid on it through lots of testing, contact tracing and quarantine.

The health emergency, at least in Europe, I'd likely to be over by the autumn.

However, the economic shock is incredible. I don't think we'll ever pump as much oil again for example. The virus *may* become endemic in some poorer parts of the world where the luxury of lock down / self-isolation isn't available. This seriously diminishes the viability of globalisation. The world has changed - BUT, remember, we all knew the current situation was unsustainable. We just weren't clear on the mechanism and timing of the rupture. Now we know, viral pandemic in 2020. Hardly a surprise as it's been sitting atop National Risk Registers for years.

Hmm .. I don't see this virus giving in quietly.

OK, maybe not multiple waves ... just endless testing, monitoring and worry as it picks off people one by one.

Waves or endless semi-lockdown ... life will be really difficult.

Every day there will be a report of a super-spreader having gone to a party or travelled on the Tube ... bingo .. panic all over again.

[vtsnowedin]

Hang on, I see little evidence for 'multiple waves'. The trajectory most fairly wealthy countries are on is to lock down for a few months, get community spread down to the tens of genuine cases, then keep a lid on it through lots of testing, contact tracing and quarantine.

The health emergency, at least in Europe, I'd likely to be over by the autumn.

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Where is the evidence that supports that? I see no country that is actually finished with this. And if you point to China we all will laugh. In fact some of the countries that thought they had quashed it are just now getting a second wave.
It will come down to the point that the continued new cases and deaths can be handled by the healthcare systems and each countries economies will be restarted to end the harm continued lock downs and restrictions cause. It will never take as many lives or cost as much in healthcare as tobacco smoking has for decades. Once the public realizes this there will be no tolerance for any restrictions that keep people from their jobs.

[Catweazle]

Alcohol hand sanitiser is still available by the litre from butchers suppliers:

https://butchers-sundries.com/collectio ... -per-litre

[BritDownUnder]

I notice the infamous Marquis of Bath has died of this disease. And 'Nipper' Read of the Yard too.
Clearly not just poor people getting it.

[kenneal - lagger]

I notice the infamous Marquis of Bath has died of this disease. ...........

One party too many it would seem!!

[fuzzy]

Check out the well deserved backlash they got on twitter.

While there are more idiot BBQs, house parties and cricket matches they still need to break up.

https://twitter.com/CambridgeCops/statu ... 7394293760

https://twitter.com/CambridgeCops/statu ... 8534601728

Perhaps the public noticed they are still operating airports to grovel to the money launderers in the city.

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Perhaps the public noticed they are still operating airports to grovel to the money launderers in the city.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rs-from-uk

[BritDownUnder]

Perhaps the public noticed they are still operating airports to grovel to the money launderers in the city.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rs-from-uk

The men, aged 40-50, and women, aged 23-25, were refused permission to enter France and ordered by police to fly back to the UK.

Men in their 40s and women in their 20s.
Hmmm.

Once the Embraer Legacy jet had landed at Marseille-Provence, the group, made up of several nationalities including Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian, reportedly tried to get help from contacts to continue their journey.

Not too many British by the sounds of it. Perhaps they were saddened by the weather and needed cheering up by the company of young women on the riviera.

[Vortex2]

Matt Hancock blames front line staff for using too much PPE ..

Bum covering slime ball.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12676 ... ital-staff