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Vortex2 wrote:Pensions:

I cashed in all my pensions last year to pay for the construction of our eco house.

I was a bit upset about being left without a decent pension ... but will the current/coming financial situation mean that I won't be alone?
I have not had a pension since 2006 when after being on this forum, decided they were heading for trouble. Not three yers later annuities went tits up. Per 100K in your pension you got 7K, then boom, 2.4K.

I now think hyperinflation is on the cards to pay fro the west's huge unfunded promises.

The last few years has seen any spare cash goes into gold/silver.
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stumuz1 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:this is a potential gamechanger:

https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/i ... hloroquine
Hydroxychloroquine keeps popping up. I posted a link to Ambrose in the Telegraph on here about two weeks ago. He said the same thing, but, also said it is still available and cheap.

I don't know if it rehash of old stories, but the refusal to go away may seem hopeful.
Didn't Martenson or the medical YT expert show how it would work especially if you took a zinc compound at the same time?
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So, Asda order just arrived.

Except there was no bread, no milk and no eggs, so now I am going to have to venture out to the supermarket.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:So, Asda order just arrived.

Except there was no bread, no milk and no eggs, so now I am going to have to venture out to the supermarket.
Psst, wanna buy some chickens, going cheep.
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stumuz1 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:Desperate people in Italy. We are heading towards exactly this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsNWbfatRwg
Disagree, this is Italy. Cash is king, I know a bloke who can.., Don't register for work you pay too much taxes, blatant selling of stolen goods on the streets, no effective local authorities just local mafia who run local services ( ever been to Naples in the summer when they don't collect the rubbish?)

I have always said, we don't do revolutions. They're for Johnny Foriegner in warmer countries.
I know a man born and raised in Naples, says he will never go back. He told me of a common trick where tourists have the wheels of their cars stolen, and when they get back to their car a nearby helpful local knows a breakers yard where they can get another set from. A very similar set indeed.
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Catweazle wrote:
stumuz1 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:Desperate people in Italy. We are heading towards exactly this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsNWbfatRwg
Disagree, this is Italy. Cash is king, I know a bloke who can.., Don't register for work you pay too much taxes, blatant selling of stolen goods on the streets, no effective local authorities just local mafia who run local services ( ever been to Naples in the summer when they don't collect the rubbish?)

I have always said, we don't do revolutions. They're for Johnny Foriegner in warmer countries.
I know a man born and raised in Naples, says he will never go back. He told me of a common trick where tourists have the wheels of their cars stolen, and when they get back to their car a nearby helpful local knows a breakers yard where they can get another set from. A very similar set indeed.
Sounds like Newcastle. My stepbrother was stopped by plod and managed to show he was right and plod was wrong. Miffed plod walks around his car and points out low tyre tread. Stepbrother accepts ticket. Later he remembers tyres were quite new. Confused, he pieces together plot.

He parks in the same city centre space for regular nightshift. Some unknown scroat had been swapping wheels - maybe 1 a week [2 were original] . Who watches a guy with a jack, wheelbrace and spare wheel?
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Just wondering ...

Why are countries such as Iran which have a small percentage of old people apparently hit hard by COVID-19?

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fuzzy wrote:
Catweazle wrote:
stumuz1 wrote: Disagree, this is Italy. Cash is king, I know a bloke who can.., Don't register for work you pay too much taxes, blatant selling of stolen goods on the streets, no effective local authorities just local mafia who run local services ( ever been to Naples in the summer when they don't collect the rubbish?)

I have always said, we don't do revolutions. They're for Johnny Foriegner in warmer countries.
I know a man born and raised in Naples, says he will never go back. He told me of a common trick where tourists have the wheels of their cars stolen, and when they get back to their car a nearby helpful local knows a breakers yard where they can get another set from. A very similar set indeed.
Sounds like Newcastle. My stepbrother was stopped by plod and managed to show he was right and plod was wrong. Miffed plod walks around his car and points out low tyre tread. Stepbrother accepts ticket. Later he remembers tyres were quite new. Confused, he pieces together plot.

He parks in the same city centre space for regular nightshift. Some unknown scroat had been swapping wheels - maybe 1 a week [2 were original] . Who watches a guy with a jack, wheelbrace and spare wheel?
Scammers everywhere ... many years ago a long stay car park at Heathrow was removing the engines of brand new top-end cars and replacing them with duff engines.
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stumuz1 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:this is a potential gamechanger:

https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/i ... hloroquine
Hydroxychloroquine keeps popping up. I posted a link to Ambrose in the Telegraph on here about two weeks ago. He said the same thing, but, also said it is still available and cheap.

I don't know if it rehash of old stories, but the refusal to go away may seem hopeful.
It was available at £15 a course a week ago, but I didn't buy any because the reports I read were that it had to be used very carefully with specific anti-biotics and supervised on an individual basis. That may have been a mistake by me.
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Iran has a very small percentage of population over the age of 60. They are 20 years short of the West's demographic time bomb. The real outlier is Japan.

Our assets are approx. 65% property 24% cash 10% pension pots and 1% shares.
No future is certain but anything short of total collapse they should see us out of our natural lives.

What will be left for our kids I do not know.
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See this from a farmer friend:
But what happens when there is lack of supply? What happens when countries stop exporting? What happens when farmers and pickers get sick? What happens when people get stuck at home in isolation and run out of money for food? What happens if looting of supermarkets starts?
https://medium.com/@AlexHeffron88/how-w ... 6ffbd378aa
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Vortex2 wrote:Just wondering ...

Why are countries such as Iran which have a small percentage of old people apparently hit hard by COVID-19?
The quality and size of their health care system, partly caused by US sanctions on their exports of oil, caused by their support of terrorism, caused by their leaders religious zealotry caused by------.
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clv101 wrote:See this from a farmer friend:
But what happens when there is lack of supply? What happens when countries stop exporting? What happens when farmers and pickers get sick? What happens when people get stuck at home in isolation and run out of money for food? What happens if looting of supermarkets starts?
https://medium.com/@AlexHeffron88/how-w ... 6ffbd378aa
I suspect that new medications , immune people returning to work and a vaccine will prevent a total world collapse.

If social doom was around the corner we could simply say "OK, back to work everyone".
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From the Teleg:

* Coronavirus: Questions over true death toll after London hospital records almost three times more deaths than official figures show

* Intensive care for coronavirus patients now limited to those 'reasonably certain' to survive
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India is not a place to be homeless or poor at the moment ..

Divided Delhi under lockdown: 'If coronavirus doesn't kill me, hunger will'

https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... unger-will
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