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boisdevie wrote:A friend of mine is being forced to continue working against her will. Her essential job? - greetings cards metchandiser. Her company will cause people to die because of their f***ing greed.
You can add The Lottery to this list of shame - there will be many unnecessary deaths and hospitalizations with the "Got to be in it to win it!" brigade.
Win what? A long stay in an ITU?
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Perhaps the ventilators could be fairly allocated that way.
When you're dealing with exponential growth, the time to act is when it feels too early.
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careful_eugene wrote:
Bedrock Barney wrote:We are starting to hear that construction sites will soon be shutting down. Not surprising really.

Bizarrely, we have probably got about 3 to 4 months of full time work ahead of us. One of our very good clients is, I think, happy for tender documents to be prepared and then placed on the shelf ready to be utilised at a later date. We will be discussing via a group chat in the next day or so.

We have a relatively rare business set up. It's husband and wife only. We live 3 minutes walk away from our office and have have 24/7 remote access into the office block.

It's likely therefore that we will be sat in our office working away for the next few months whilst everything stops around us. I'd rather be productive than rely on the state as long as this can be done safely (which it can).
We're almost still business as usual, only one of our installations has been cancelled and this was due to other issues. All the other sites are still working. There is a school of thought here that as the railways are operating at a reduced level, we could get quite a lot of engineering work done as possessions are more likely to be available!
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A lot of heavy highway construction consists of single operators sitting in AC cabs of trucks ,excavators,and dozers etc. These could carry on while maintaining eight foot separation. Exceptions are pipe crews working down in a trench box joining and bedding pipe and the crew on and around a asphalt paver which walk past and around each other pressed pretty close by passing traffic. It will be interesting to see how the managers choose to go about heavy construction this summer.
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I wouldn't be suprised if tar fumes didn't suppress it anyway - phenol, benzene, toluene, carbolic etc. Certainly clean your throat and sinus.
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Vortex2 wrote:Thoughts ...

It's now clear that the British Bulldog Spirit has mostly been killed off over the last decades.

Many people today seem to have lost - or never ever had - their moral compass ando/r IQ and/or any sense of decency.

Following this chaos - if my wife & I survive - I would be tempted to join a community or town or region which had a more old fashioned or structured approach to life.
That'll be like a lot of folks round here then. Careful though, you'll get called a knuckle dragging white working class northern gammon if you do.

but seriously.

The "bulldog spirit" was always and only ever a wartime propaganda pile of bollocks.

People are people. That is to say, they are conditionally cooperative when they can be and ruthlessly competitive if they have no choice. People don;t need to change. The rules of the game need to change.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:Next door but one from us have got it. Utterly predicatable - five kids, all boys, in a not-very-big 3 bed terraced house. Three of the kids had fever and coughing yesterday, now the parents both reporting that it feels like a concrete block pressing down on their chests. She obese.

No tests of course, but they are pretty certain they've got it and they are probably right.
You have a choice : pop over and become an early adopter, if you are young and fit.

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fuzzy wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if tar fumes didn't suppress it anyway - phenol, benzene, toluene, carbolic etc. Certainly clean your throat and sinus.
The average crewman smokes a pack and a half a day just to make sure all those fumes get seared onto his lung tissue properly.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
fuzzy wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if tar fumes didn't suppress it anyway - phenol, benzene, toluene, carbolic etc. Certainly clean your throat and sinus.
The average crewman smokes a pack and a half a day just to make sure all those fumes get seared onto his lung tissue properly.
IIRC a study from years ago found that those workers had LESS lung cancer than the average.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... und-trains

So we've got a reduced tube service, and many of those travelling on packed trains are people who work in hospitals that are infested with wu-flu.

So glad I don't live in London.
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Vortex2 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:Next door but one from us have got it. Utterly predicatable - five kids, all boys, in a not-very-big 3 bed terraced house. Three of the kids had fever and coughing yesterday, now the parents both reporting that it feels like a concrete block pressing down on their chests. She obese.

No tests of course, but they are pretty certain they've got it and they are probably right.
You have a choice : pop over and become an early adopter, if you are young and fit.

Otherwise run like hell!
Run where? I live here. The virus is less than 10 metres from where I am sitting right now.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:Next door but one from us have got it. Utterly predicatable - five kids, all boys, in a not-very-big 3 bed terraced house. Three of the kids had fever and coughing yesterday, now the parents both reporting that it feels like a concrete block pressing down on their chests. She obese.

No tests of course, but they are pretty certain they've got it and they are probably right.
You have a choice : pop over and become an early adopter, if you are young and fit.

Otherwise run like hell!
Run where? I live here. The virus is less than 10 metres from where I am sitting right now.
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Vortex2 wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
Vortex2 wrote: You have a choice : pop over and become an early adopter, if you are young and fit.

Otherwise run like hell!
Run where? I live here. The virus is less than 10 metres from where I am sitting right now.
Shades of the film At the Door .... :(

Have you no long lost friend on the Isle Of Skye?
Sadly not.

They've got a poster on the door: "Do not enter. We have Covid-19." It's scary. Every time the wind blows I imagine viruses blowing past my window.
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HMG today 23rd March : 6,650 cases.

My prediction from yesterday 7,763

R^2 is lower at R2 = 9.91

Several days of deviation now.

No idea if poor reports, bad algorithm or actual slowing.

I suspect that too few reports due to work overload and lack of testing kits.

Also, it's the last 6 days values which are the deviations ... I think that matches the date when HMG said they were reducing testing.

If this keeps up I won't be able to trust the HMG data - so I may need to back calculate from the deaths announcements.

That said, we still reach doom during April.
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Boris to make statement to the country at 2030. My hope is that it's lockdown.
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