New coronavirus in/from China

[Potemkin Villager]

Vallence didn't get where he is today without impressive presentation skills or by ever sounding the slightest bit doubtful which served him well when rising to head of R+D in big pharma before moving to a top government position. It will be interesting to see how he navigates what seems likely to be yet another government U turn.

[vtsnowedin]

I'm going off to vomit in a corner now ....

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I recommend you use a toilet instead of a random corner. Much easier for your maid to clean up after you.

Hi! How are you all doing?

Quite well considering. The wife and I are now down to very nagging coughs with muscle pains and appetite loss. I've not been off the lot for a full week and My wife is a couple of days behind. Only thing we are running out of is cough drops and coffee creamer. The state is going into social distancing in a big way with municipal buildings shutting down and I expect schools to be closed shortly. The state now has three confirmed cases.

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

I am just hoping they are sane enough to allow people to continue dog-walking where there is no significant risk of transmission.

Seen Wuhan dog walker pic... Is this a thing? Arghhh...

I now need to know the precise calibrated Canine Perambulation risk. Three Irish Setters on separate walks, one with a friend's Spaniel (she's a old folks home nurse, so we already have the social distancing well sorted) My previously mentioned Pandemic plan says -

Avoid other dog walkers. Smile and wave.

[oobers]

I’d welcome your views on taking my child (9) out of school before any UK wide school closures. I’d like to do so, and provide childcare as part of an informal group of carers within my workplace.

I don’t agree with the reasoning given at national level for keeping schools open any longer. The infection status of parents at this stage is unknown because there is no preemptive testing happening and most are unlikely to be modifying the level of tactile contact with their children. The schools themselves will be breeding grounds as the children will be asymptomatic and sneezing and coughing in the usual seasonal way with very little caution.

If they close schools before any nationwide lockdown, vulnerable grandparents will be asked to care for children, so the sooner we get children out of school the better so fewer of them are going infected to stay with vulnerable carers.

If alternative childcare arrangements can be made that help all concerned, we should do this in my opinion.

[Bedrock Barney]

Decided to join up with a metal detecting club today for a few hours trudging about in the rain and mud. All rather enjoyable in the end. Pretty good mindfulness away from the TV and internet. Probably about 40 of us. Some discussion about the virus but no-one seemed that concerned. A good proportion of the group is probably 60+ in age.

One chap I spoke to said that he knew someone in army logistics and that they were servicing and prepping vehicles like mad, including some that had been mothballed.

[vtsnowedin]

I’d welcome your views on taking my child (9) out of school before any UK wide school closures. I’d like to do so, and provide childcare as part of an informal group of carers within my workplace.

I don’t agree with the reasoning given at national level for keeping schools open any longer. The infection status of parents at this stage is unknown because there is no preemptive testing happening and most are unlikely to be modifying the level of tactile contact with their children. The schools themselves will be breeding grounds as the children will be asymptomatic and sneezing and coughing in the usual seasonal way with very little caution.

If they close schools before any nationwide lockdown, vulnerable grandparents will be asked to care for children, so the sooner we get children out of school the better so fewer of them are going infected to stay with vulnerable carers.

If alternative childcare arrangements can be made that help all concerned, we should do this in my opinion.

Taking your child out of school and then to work with you just moves the problem. If you need to take your child out of school you should also be staying away from work. Otherwise you will accomplish very little.

[oobers]

I’d welcome your views on taking my child (9) out of school before any UK wide school closures. I’d like to do so, and provide childcare as part of an informal group of carers within my workplace.

I don’t agree with the reasoning given at national level for keeping schools open any longer. The infection status of parents at this stage is unknown because there is no preemptive testing happening and most are unlikely to be modifying the level of tactile contact with their children. The schools themselves will be breeding grounds as the children will be asymptomatic and sneezing and coughing in the usual seasonal way with very little caution.

If they close schools before any nationwide lockdown, vulnerable grandparents will be asked to care for children, so the sooner we get children out of school the better so fewer of them are going infected to stay with vulnerable carers.

If alternative childcare arrangements can be made that help all concerned, we should do this in my opinion.

Taking your child out of school and then to work with you just moves the problem. If you need to take your child out of school you should also be staying away from work. Otherwise you will accomplish very little.

I should clarify - the childcare would be provided by a few people from my workplace, on a rota system, but away from the workplace, in our homes.

[Vortex2]

This virus thingy is becoming a bit irksome.

I brought my mailserver home from my office .. and dropped it.

Smashed one USB port and the video card DVI port.

Luckily I could steal a HDMI cable from my AI PC.

Life is hard!

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

...provided by a few people from my workplace, on a rota system, but away from the workplace, in our homes.

See the recent discussion on social club risk. Less people involved, the fewer vectors, while also mindful of the sharply increasing risks over time.

[raspberry-blower]

Been getting FB and Instagram messages from friends who had been out across Europe in a camper van. They were coming back from Spain "soon" but made the decision to return back now a couple of days back on the weather forecast. Made the right call by sounds of it!
Spain: supermarkets in short supply, all bars, clubs, restaurants effectively shut down; police out in force sealing off quite a few cities including Barcelona
France: even access to the beaches was being curtailed - again everything is closing down.
Got to Eurostar this evening and are heading to Blighty now - there were immigrants trying to get in on their camper van this afternoon but failed.

**** just got real

[Vortex2]

JCB, Unipart, Rolls Royce are gearing up to mass produce ventilators.

A bit like the arms effort to make Sten guns during the war.

If Boris The Clown had invoked a clamp-down then maybe we wouldn't need so many damn ventilators.

[Vortex2]

I really hope I live through this - it would great to be part of rebuilding a new world after this.

[clv101]

JCB, Unipart, Rolls Royce are gearing up to mass produce ventilators.

No use without the trained staff - anesthetists for example, not something you can learn in three days.

[vtsnowedin]

JCB, Unipart, Rolls Royce are gearing up to mass produce ventilators.

No use without the trained staff - anesthetists for example, not something you can learn in three days.

I expect the staff currently working can hook up way more ventilators then they have in hand. Of course that might become a moot point if and when that staff becomes sick themselves.

[PS_RalphW]

I occurs to me, that by following this strategy, the UK will be sabotaging European efforts to contain the virus China style. UK nationals will be the new target racial hate figures, we will be barred entry to all other countries like lepurs used to be.