Did you cancel your foraging course? We've just cancelled an event we were hosting on Sunday, at personal financial cost.UndercoverElephant wrote:Yep. My family went to visit my very sick mother in her new nursing home yesterday, but that is it. We're offline now.Lord Beria3 wrote:Anybody who is old or sick should self isolate NOW.
New coronavirus in/from China
Moderator: Peak Moderation
Did you get that the right way round?UndercoverElephant wrote:Hancock, unless very serious restrictions are implemented this weekend.stumuz1 wrote:Something I have just heard from yesterday in Parliament.
Jeremy Hunt (ex health secretary) said he expected the pandemic to peak in about two weeks.
Matt Hancock (current heath secretary) said this was incorrect and the peak was still some two months away.
Both cannot be right.
Using Vortex and Little john's spreadsheet two months (day 60ish) will see the entire UK and more infected.
Who is nearer the mark? Hunt or Hancock?
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Haven't decided on that one yet. It is outside.clv101 wrote:Did you cancel your foraging course? We've just cancelled an event we were hosting on Sunday, at personal financial cost.UndercoverElephant wrote:Yep. My family went to visit my very sick mother in her new nursing home yesterday, but that is it. We're offline now.Lord Beria3 wrote:Anybody who is old or sick should self isolate NOW.
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YesVortex2 wrote:Did you get that the right way round?UndercoverElephant wrote:Hancock, unless very serious restrictions are implemented this weekend.stumuz1 wrote:Something I have just heard from yesterday in Parliament.
Jeremy Hunt (ex health secretary) said he expected the pandemic to peak in about two weeks.
Matt Hancock (current heath secretary) said this was incorrect and the peak was still some two months away.
Both cannot be right.
Using Vortex and Little john's spreadsheet two months (day 60ish) will see the entire UK and more infected.
Who is nearer the mark? Hunt or Hancock?
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Err, OK.UndercoverElephant wrote:YesVortex2 wrote:Did you get that the right way round?UndercoverElephant wrote: Hancock, unless very serious restrictions are implemented this weekend.
Anyway it doesn't matter what HMG says : we shall get some graphic warning from Italy over the next few days when their health service melts down ....
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Little John
I totally get why people are attending such parties right now. It is entirely rational. They have worked out, just like us, that their medical system is going to be overwhelmed in weeks and they also know their chance of catching this virus at some point is high. All of the above being the case, the very best time to catch it is either right now or in many months time.UndercoverElephant wrote:Ohio Police break up "Coronavirus Party" with non-lethal force:
https://youtu.be/f5DqzvLmyW0
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With a pic of the helpful guy behind this. Grabbing two manky escalator rails. Without gloves. Yup, he's certainly best off indoors.
With a pic of the helpful guy behind this. Grabbing two manky escalator rails. Without gloves. Yup, he's certainly best off indoors.
.. and then they murder their grandparents via virus ...Little John wrote:I totally get why people are attending such parties right now. It is entirely rational. They have worked out, just like us, that their medical system is going to be overwhelmed in weeks and they also know their chance of catching this virus at some point is high. All of the above being the case, the very best time to catch it is either right now or in many months time.UndercoverElephant wrote:Ohio Police break up "Coronavirus Party" with non-lethal force:
https://youtu.be/f5DqzvLmyW0
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Little John
Not necessarily correct.Vortex2 wrote:.. and then they murder their grandparents via virus ...Little John wrote:I totally get why people are attending such parties right now. It is entirely rational. They have worked out, just like us, that their medical system is going to be overwhelmed in weeks and they also know their chance of catching this virus at some point is high. All of the above being the case, the very best time to catch it is either right now or in many months time.UndercoverElephant wrote:Ohio Police break up "Coronavirus Party" with non-lethal force:
https://youtu.be/f5DqzvLmyW0
They would have had a 70+% chance of being part of the population who will murder them anyway. Also, if they know the precise date on which they contract it, they are far more likely to be in a position to self isolate at the appropriate time and so infect far fewer people, if any, including their grandparents, as compared to when they would catch it later unknowingly and so infect many people, including their grandparents, in the incubation period
So all those at the party will do that, will they?Little John wrote:Not necessarily correct.Vortex2 wrote:.. and then they murder their grandparents via virus ...Little John wrote:I totally get why people are attending such parties right now. It is entirely rational. They have worked out, just like us, that their medical system is going to be overwhelmed in weeks and they also know their chance of catching this virus at some point is high. All of the above being the case, the very best time to catch it is either right now or in many months time.
They would have had a 70+% chance of being part of the population who will murder them anyway. Also, if they know the precise date on which they contract it, they are far more likely to be in a position to self isolate at the appropriate time and so infect far fewer people, if any, including their grandparents, as compared to when they would catch it later unknowingly and so infect many people, including their grandparents, in the incubation period
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Little John
I've no idea. But, I might hazard a guess that if they have had the intellectual nous to make the kinds of calculations I have mentioned they are also likely to know how serious this virus is. In turn, on that basis alone, they are at least as likely to self isolate at the appropriate time than people who contract this virus unknowingly. More so, if anything I would have thought.Vortex2 wrote:So all those at the party will do that, will they?Little John wrote:Not necessarily correct.Vortex2 wrote: .. and then they murder their grandparents via virus ...
They would have had a 70+% chance of being part of the population who will murder them anyway. Also, if they know the precise date on which they contract it, they are far more likely to be in a position to self isolate at the appropriate time and so infect far fewer people, if any, including their grandparents, as compared to when they would catch it later unknowingly and so infect many people, including their grandparents, in the incubation period
The point I am getting at here is that this virus is out. It's out and it is going to infect as many people as it is going to infect and there is absolutely nothing whatsoever that can be done to stop it. If an individual knows that and knows that the medical system is gong to be overwhelmed in a matter of weeks, it is an entirely rational action to seek to infect oneself right now. Plus, this has the added virtuous bonus of, in doing so, having the opportunity to self isolate right at the point of infection and so being far less likely to unwittingly infect others than if one catches this virus unknowingly.
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